New post on my website: The most ridiculous Linux bug I've encountered in ages.
Installing XFCE changed a mouse cursor setting for GNOME that caused the login screen to crash when trying to log into GNOME/Wayland.

New post on my website: The most ridiculous Linux bug I've encountered in ages.
Installing XFCE changed a mouse cursor setting for GNOME that caused the login screen to crash when trying to log into GNOME/Wayland.
Once again, this month I'm using #LinuxMint with #XFCE
One more screenshot of the classic MacOS 8/9 theme under XFce. Honestly, from all the themes I've done, this one I enjoy the most. It's rather convincing because it doesn't use docks or launchers that all modern OSes use, so it feels different.
And here's the classic MacOS 8/9 theme under XFce. Rather convincing, although the icons are of too low resolution. Overall though, pretty good. A simpler time...
My XFce Win11-like theme under Linux #Mint. The theme has a couple of bugs, but overall it works well.
I found that XFce is the most themeable of the DEs, however it has started showing its age. For example, no connection of open apps to their launcher (they open a second icon), no "live" thumbnail of an open app, etc.
#Linux The #XFCE desktop has become once more my favorite desktop.
Here checking out windows tiling while listening to #ChakaKhan on #Qmmp
#FensterFreitag #ViernesDeEscritorio
I used #redshift on #xfce and have done so for a few years now.
I set the lat and lon entries in the ~/.config/redshift.conf file to match my rough location, meaning it is now manual rather than automatic. The rest of redshift seems to work fine like that.
I have read elsewhere that you can 'fudge' this by using the 'demo' of geoclue-2 which will provide a rough estimation of location which should be perfectly adequate for redshift purposes - I believe this is done by changing the executable to be `/usr/lib/geoclue-2.0/demos/where-am-i`
When I compare the settings I run in #xfce between #bookworm and #trixie across Power Manager, Display, Window Manager, and LightDM, they are identical.
To the best of my knowledge, accepting that isn't brilliant, this seems to be a regression between #xfce 4.18 in #bookworm and 4.20 in #trixie, or if not a regression then some interaction across different subsystems.
I need to do a clean #trixie install in a VM and compare things, as my main desktop where I observe the issue was in-place upgraded from #bookworm to #trixie, so things might be different. That said, an upgrade should have maintained the settings which as I say worked fine in #bookworm
None of this is the end of the world and I can live with the singlular instance of the issue per reboot. I would just like to get to the bottom of it for completeness sake for myself, and perhaps to help ensure it doesn't happen for other users.
@OrionKidder @unixviking
Care to share what extensions you have installed and why?
I use #debian and despite playing around in a VM for multiple different distros, as well as #debian with multiple different DEs, I end up staying with #xfce on #debain stable (well in truth I am now on #trixie given the stability and imminent release).
I like a lot of things about #gnome, but struggle with a couple of key areas - the file manager in terms of customisation and fixed viewing styles, and strange as this may seem I'm against things like #flatpak because I feel things should be native and integrated.
That said, I'm having to use #distrobox and some containers as #trixie doesn't have two key apps for me - #dvbcut which was in #bookworm but isn't in #trixie, and #avidemux which hasn't been in #debian for years now.
I really want to move to either #gnome or #kde, but #kde is far too unstable for my liking and that's a showstopper. Often my desktop is on for weeks or months at a time.
A weird thing I've noticed on my #debian #trixie #xfce desktop is that I get heavy CPU usage the first time after the machine has been left idle for 10 minutes or more.
To explain.
I have Power Manager set to manage Display Power, but both Put to Sleep and Switch Off are both set to Never (i.e. do not run).
There is no #xfce screensaver installed.
Lightdm is used as the login manager, which means light-locker is in place.
If I leave the PC alone, after 10 minutes the display will go off, despite the Power Manager being set to Never.
If I then move the mouse to wake it up, the display comes back on. The system is not locking, just putting display to sleep.
At which point the #xfce panel-wrapper consumes 100% of 1 core and stays that way forever unless I do something.
I have found running `systemctl --user restart pulseaudio.service` fixes the problem.
It only happens once, all times after that when the display goes off do not create any impact.
Any ideas anyone?
@debacle Gracias! En Kali estoy en #X11 también, con #xfce. Gajim v2.1.1.1-2.
Es verdad, no es lo más rápido que hay, y consume bastante memoria... acabo de lanzar #gajim, #pidgin, #dino, y #profanity, y los consumos de memoria residente son muy dispares:
* Gajim: 309M
* Dino: 507M
* Pidgin: 129M
* Profanity: 45M
Me quedo con Profanity por mi obsesión con el bajo consumo de RAM
Joder, qué mal que amdan algunas cosas de #gajim en #kalilinux... parece que no se lleva bien con #xfce
Abro una ventana como el About o las preferencias, y responde muy lento, a veces no responde, y para que se dibuje el contenido, tengo que mover la ventana princpal de Gajim.
Será cosa del #xfce? del compositor?
Sigo con #pidgin con ganas de pasarme a #profanity
Americans, Europeans, or anyone else, why can't you create a beautiful desktop interface like the Chinese at Deepin Linux?
#linux #gnulinux #deepinlinux #deepin25 #gnome #kde #xfce #lxqt @lxde #ubuntu #fedora #linuxmint #archlinux