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Diego Córdoba 🇦🇷<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://framapiaf.org/@debacle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>debacle</span></a></span> Gracias! En Kali estoy en <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/X11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X11</span></a> también, con <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/xfce" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xfce</span></a>. Gajim v2.1.1.1-2.</p><p>Es verdad, no es lo más rápido que hay, y consume bastante memoria... acabo de lanzar <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/pidgin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pidgin</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/dino" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dino</span></a>, y <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/profanity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>profanity</span></a>, y los consumos de memoria residente son muy dispares:</p><p>* Gajim: 309M<br>* Dino: 507M<br>* Pidgin: 129M<br>* Profanity: 45M</p><p>Me quedo con Profanity por mi obsesión con el bajo consumo de RAM 😉</p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.io/@d1cor" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>d1cor</span></a></span></p><p>Acá usario de <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> en <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a>, entonces similar a Kali. Que versión de Gajim es? Gajim no es el cliente mas rápido, pero especialmente las últimas versiones no estan tan lentos.</p><p>Pero estoy en <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/EXWM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EXWM</span></a> (=&nbsp;<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/X11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X11</span></a>), no en XFCE ni <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a>.</p><p>En todo caso: <a href="xmpp:gajim@conference.gajim.org?join" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">xmpp:</span><span class="ellipsis">gajim@conference.gajim.org?joi</span><span class="invisible">n</span></a></p>
Diego Córdoba 🇦🇷<p>Joder, qué mal que amdan algunas cosas de <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> en <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/kalilinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>kalilinux</span></a>... parece que no se lleva bien con <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/xfce" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xfce</span></a> </p><p>Abro una ventana como el About o las preferencias, y responde muy lento, a veces no responde, y para que se dibuje el contenido, tengo que mover la ventana princpal de Gajim.</p><p>Será cosa del <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/xfce" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xfce</span></a>? del compositor?</p><p>Sigo con <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/pidgin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pidgin</span></a> con ganas de pasarme a <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/profanity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>profanity</span></a> :thinkTux: </p><p><a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/gnu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gnu</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a></p>
Gajim<p>Gajim 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 have been released!</p><p>As with every major change, some bugs make it through the testing phase. 🐛 </p><p>These two Gajim releases fix database migration issues and the Windows system tray icon.</p><p>Thank you for all your contributions! ❤️ </p><p>Support Gajim's development: <a href="https://liberapay.com/Gajim" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">liberapay.com/Gajim</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://gajim.org/posts/2025-07-02-gajim-2.3.1-2.3.2-released/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">gajim.org/posts/2025-07-02-gaj</span><span class="invisible">im-2.3.1-2.3.2-released/</span></a></p>
Dusty<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tech.lgbt/@nina_kali_nina" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nina_kali_nina</span></a></span> I've been using <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> for the last year or so, wondering if the halcyon ICQ days of yore are still to be had.</p><p>After testing it with several friends connecting to my own self-hosted <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Prosody</span></a> server, here's what I found:</p><p>- Yes it all works, on all XMPP clients. But MacOS/iPadOS/iOS clients are not all that mature at this time. The <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> (<a href="https://autistics.life/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a>, despite no video or audio calls) and <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> (<a href="https://autistics.life/tags/Conversations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Conversations</span></a>) XMPP clients are the best, IMHO. Always favor those, I say, and they are confidently installable and reliable today.<br>- Yes, use OMEMO encryption on personal chats. But when it comes to group chats, OMEMO is not necessarily the right move.<br>- If you don't need privacy in an XMPP group, then don't create a private group, but rather a _public_ group (the safer choice for reliability of message delivery). No OMEMO is possible in a public group, and the messages propagating around will be reliable, even to clients who vanish and re-appear after prolonged absences.<br>- If you really need OMEMO encryption in a group chat, create a _private_ group, not a public group. **Clients who vanish from the group for prolonged periods may miss out on some of the messages when they return (say, a few weeks later)**.<br>- I kept a wiki with several more quirks noted, which came up, and felt confusing and frustrating to my (non-geek) friends using XMPP.</p><p>As to your Apple-ecosystem-confined friends, at this moment in time, maybe talk to them 1:1 in <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/Fluffychat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fluffychat</span></a>/Matrix, which affords encryption, and is all <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a>, like everything above. (Groups in <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> have a track record of failing for everybody in them very badly every 2 or 3 years or so.)</p>
Gajim<p>Gajim 2.3 has been released 🥳 </p><p>A fresh new look for Gajim arrived! 😎 <br>With this release Gajim introduces Adwaita, a library providing styles, nicely designed user interface elements, animations and more. Many dialogs, including Preferences and Plugin management have been redesigned.</p><p>This release is available on Windows again - finally! </p><p>Thank you for all your contributions! ❤️ </p><p>Support Gajim's development: <a href="https://liberapay.com/Gajim" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">liberapay.com/Gajim</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://gajim.org/posts/2025-06-29-gajim-2.3.0-released/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">gajim.org/posts/2025-06-29-gaj</span><span class="invisible">im-2.3.0-released/</span></a></p>
:awesome: Leo 🇲🇽<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bonito.cafe/@flan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>flan</span></a></span> En resumen, en nuestra experiencia, el ecosistema idóneo para comunicarnos vía <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> con <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> ha sido: <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Prosody</span></a> como servidor, <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Monocles</span></a> y <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> como clientes principales, <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/conversejs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>conversejs</span></a> o <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Movim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Movim</span></a> como clientes web cuando haga falta.</p>
:awesome: Leo 🇲🇽<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bonito.cafe/@flan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>flan</span></a></span> <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> </p><ul><li>El servidor de XMPP que mejor maneja <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> es <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Prosody</span></a></li><li>Las usuarias deberían recibir una inducción para que se aseguren de configurar sus clientes con OMEMO activado siempre.</li><li>El cliente para <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> que reúne todas las características que valoramos como grupo es <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Monocles</span></a>: [video]llamadas, OMEMO, widgets webxcd, interfaz elegante y amigable, reacciones a mensajes con emoji (selector cómodo), inserción de multimedia, renderizado de markdown, hilos. </li><li>El cliente para <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> que tiene casi todas las características que valoramos es <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> (aunque aún carece de llamadas y widgets webxcd).</li><li>Los clientes web recomendados son <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/conversejs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>conversejs</span></a> y <a href="https://bonito.cafe/tags/Movim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Movim</span></a>, aunque tienen limitaciones que deben ser comentadas siempre que alguien se integra a un grupo, en concreto, Movim, es incapaz de insertar multimedia cifrada.</li></ul>
Gajim<p>Gajim's website gajim.org just got a fresh new look! 😎 </p><p>Check it out at <a href="https://gajim.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">gajim.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Cappyjax" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Cappyjax</span></a></span> IDGAF about <em>"passion"</em>. <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114697690127511140" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">All I care about is the security of users!</a></p><p>Requiring <em>any</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> is inacceptable when it comes to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a>, espechally given <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> is not only able but entirely willing to restrict service based off said numbers, making their "solution" insecure by design.</p><ul><li>There's a reason why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME [both each over <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>] is the <em>evidently superior and more secure approach</em>, as being unable to <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a>"</em> a user is a matter of security...</li></ul><p>Espechally since obtaining a phone number anonymously is oftentimes illegal (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> made it illegal starting 07/2017, so using any service that demands a phone numner is out of question)</p><ul><li>And even <em>if</em> one can get an anonymous <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> (with a phone number) or god forbid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a>, (which is at best pseudonymous as tracking down users by virtue of matching ICCID, IMEI &amp; IMSI to location and time) the chances are high that one ends up with recycled phone numbers that have already been used.</li></ul><p>Obviously the devs of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> are well aware of this critical flaw, which is why I consider them to act as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>"useful idiots"</em></a> or rather <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_(politics)#Controlled_opposition" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>"controlled opposition"</em></a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> could've been shutdown trivially by the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a> Government or forced into banning users based off their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> (they may call this <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sanctions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sanctions</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/compliance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compliance</span></a>"</em> given they added a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> - Wallet into Signal!)...</p><ul><li>All the <em>"but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Metadata" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Metadata</span></a>"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FUD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FUD</span></a> turns into <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MarketingLies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MarketingLies</span></a> once put under the looking glass and examined against the risk of state-sponsored / -endordsed / -supported attackers.</li></ul><p>Whereas with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Thunderbird</span></a> respectably I can not only use Tor, but do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> for the entire <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/communications" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>communications</span></a> infrastructure (i.e. using an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> = only reachable via Tor) and get the advantages of a self-routing, self-authenticating &amp; battle-hardened against censorship proxy network that can't be shutdown!</p><ul><li>And if you think this is too tinfoilhatted, then consider yourself privilegued enough of having your mere existance not being <a href="https://ilga.org/news/state-sponsored-homophobia-december-2019-decade-update/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">criminalized by the government under threat of public execution!</a></li></ul><p><a href="https://ilga.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/ILGA_World_map_sexual_orientation_laws_December2019.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ilga.org/wp-content/uploads/20</span><span class="invisible">24/02/ILGA_World_map_sexual_orientation_laws_December2019.pdf</span></a><br><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114697690127511140" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1146976</span><span class="invisible">90127511140</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ip6li" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ip6li</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@chrisstoecker" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>chrisstoecker</span></a></span> gibt auch noch weitere Alternativen:</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> (siehe <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a>) sowie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME (siehe <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Thunderbird</span></a>)...</li></ul><p>Merke: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummern</span></a> sind bestenfalls pseudonym und jeder Dienst der ne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a> verlangt ist unsicher!</p><ul><li>Auch <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> fällt unter <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> und ist damit unsicher!</li></ul><p>Der beste <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenschutz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Datenschutz</span></a> besteht in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datensparsamkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Datensparsamkeit</span></a>!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSAbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NSAbook</span></a> gibt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a>-Behörden seit 10+ Jahren blank-Bollkzugriff auf alles: Inklisive <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StasiBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StasiBook</span></a> &amp; Co. sowie <em>alle privaten Nachrichten</em>!</li></ul><p>Wie sonst könnte das <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CPB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CPB</span></a> sonst Leute wegen jener Nachrichteninhalten die Einreise verwehren??</p>
Was wird uns im Bereich "Chat" (XMPP) in Debian 13 "Trixie" erwarten? 🥳

Im Blog-Beitrag vom Debian XMPP Team bekommt ihr dazu einige Informationen.

Was ist XMPP? 🤔

XMPP ist ein Internetstandard für Instant Messaging - ein Protokoll zum chatten und vieles mehr! ☝️

Hier 👇 geht es zum Beitrag:

https://xmpp-team.pages.debian.net/blog/2025/05/xmpp-debian-13-trixie-news.html

Meine persönlichen Highlights sind:

💫 Dino, upgraded from 0.4.2 to 0.5.0
💫 Gajim, upgraded from 1.7.3 to 2.1.1
💫 Profanity, upgraded from 0.13.1 to 0.15.0
💫 Prosŏdy, from 0.12.3 to 13.0.1

Vielen Dank an das Debian XMPP Team und die XMPP Projekte! 🙏 🙏 🙏

Viel Spaß beim chatten.

#Debian #Debian13 #Trixie #XMPP #Jabber #Chat #Messenger #Dino #Gajim #Profanity #Prosody #GNU #Linux
Debian ProjectBits from the Debian XMPP TeamDebian is a free operating system for your computer. XMPP is the open standard for messaging and presence.
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@vascorsd I had something similar to that happen to me recently as well. I'm using a #prosody server, and I have my:

archive_expires_after = "5w"
... set in /etc/prosody/prosody.cfg.lua

Messages should be archived for 5 weeks.

Then messages sent in Gajim on one linux laptop were lost, when a second #Linux laptop who was subscribed to the same group, was turned off (absent from receiving messages) for 3 weeks. 2.75 of the 3 weeks worth of the group messages (where the laptop was turned off) silently never showed up, when #Gajim was re-opened on the second laptop.

This bodes very badly for me recommending XMPP to others. I now consider #DeltaChat to be a secondary choice, should something happen to #Signal (which is currently my privacy-respecting Messaging app goto).

Other clients who chatted in that same group, BTW: the latest stable #Monal in #iPadOS, and #Conversations in #Android

Prosody version is 13.0.0-1~bpo12+1, backend is sqlite, Gajim is 2.1.1. It was a private MUC, and OMEMO was used as much as possible.

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@dangoodin Every other desktop messaging app for #Windows would do well to add this, as #Signal has. And if they don't, they compromise the privacy of all those people who took pains to *not* use Windows (who use said messaging apps, and are contacts with these Windows users). Every alternative operating system - #Linux, #MacOS, #iPadOS, #iOS, etc - where you can run these non-Recall-protected messaging apps... they all get dragged into the privacy quagmire which Windows #Recall creates.

Another idea is for these Messaging apps to discontinue Windows support, thereby cutting off the infected, gangrenous limb, with respect to privacy. For example, #Gajim, the #XMPP client for linux, was recently stating they would release a Windows client for 2.2.0. How about just don't, and call it a day, citing Recall being too "radioactive" to privacy to get anywhere near?

I'm curious: Can web browser tabs make a DRM-insisting Recall-blockage, like Signal does? I use WhatsApp Web. How can WhatsApp Web - in a browser tab - do what Signal does here?