@smallcircles
It's a hard & difficult job to write new licenses, particularly a license that serves the users (& not lawyers and their wealthy Big Tech clients.)

#copyleft-@next will move slowly & steadily. I must focus on the final days of the #Vizio case before trial, but I'm looking forward to my “vacation” after the Vizio trial to be work on #copyleft -next!

Watch https://sfc.ngo/vizio/ for more info on #Vizio case!

Cc: @richardfontana @next @andre @dentangle @neil @jdp23

@smallcircles suggested:

> “Or try @forgejo — the code #forge that #Codeberg is based on.”

I agree completely & in #copyleft-@next project, we're using #forgejo <https://git.copyleft.org/>!

I mentioned @Codeberg specifically upthread (& not other options) b/c (a) 500-char #Mastodon limit & (b) <https://codeberg.org> is likely the best option for those who want to #GiveUpGitHub <https://giveupgithub.org> quickly.

Absolutely, #ForgeFederation is the future: #Fediverse for CODE!

Cc: @forgefed

@diffrentcolours

I'm obviously biased in saying so, but I admit that I'm so sad you don't list #SoftwareFreedom @conservancy <https://sfconservancy.org/> in that list.

Also, I'm not aware of any work that @eff has done on #FOSS issues (e.g., #EFF has generally not supported #copyleft.)

I agree with your other assessments. Specifically, @fsfe is doing an excellent job particularly on EU policy — #SFC being a USA entity is partnered with them on EU stuff since it's their bailiwick.

@wwahammy

I link again to this so folks know clearly my views on RMS' bad behavior:
https://www.ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2019/10/15/fsf-rms.html

The reason I concede the point of RMS' genius is that many of our greatest thinkers throughout history would by toxic people by today's standards. It's lamentable when that becomes clear in the philosophers' lifetime rather than after.

#Copyleft remains our best tool to defend & uphold #SoftwareFreedom & it's fact that RMS invented it. Only a genius would have come up with it in 1985.

In the case of #Wikipedia, though, printed copies should always offer &/or be accompanied with electronic copies. Wikipedia should really be under copyleft and it's not.

After all, paper printout is but a rudimentary form of DRM.

I'm not saying CC-BY-SA is useless and shouldn't exist, I'm saying there **is no** #copyleft in the CC license group. CC even used to encourage photographers license scaled versions CC-BY-SA & keep high quality images proprietary.

Cc: @cwebber @wikipedia @dos @dpk

An employee of Cook/Jobs, @jensimmons, asks on a copylefted platform what she can do improve to #WebKit.

The answer is simple: Comply with the LGPLv2.1 —as your track record on that is abysmally poor. Participate with upstream projects rather than manipulating them so you can control them.

Employees of your company used to be forbidden from talking to FOSS communities. You've spent decades working against #copyleft. But you now follow Microsoft's plan to “embrace, extend, & extinguish” #FOSS.

Under v3, it's surely a violation,
@cwebber.

GPLv3 group is unique among #copyleft licenses in that “modify” is defined:
> ”To ‘modify’ a work means to copy from or adapt all or part of the work in a fashion requiring copyright permission”

If you need copyright permission to add the REST API calls (which of course you do), then GPLv3§12 kicks in immediately if Chatgpt's license or ToS or TaC in *any* way contradict GPLv3's terms.

Bob's your uncle & you violate copyleft.

Cc: @suetanvil @jmax

@screwlisp @amszmidt

The beauty of #libre licensing, specifically the #Copyleft subset, is that the world doesn't have to depend on the behaviour of one company - others can fork the code. Examples of that happening abound. Not so with proprietary. I'm also not a fan of 'weak' #libre licenses, e.g. BSD & MIT, etc. And I revile software patents (see https://softwarepatents.org.nz)

@eduardoochs @kentpitman @dougmerritt @mdhughes

@screwlisp I'm familiar with neither anggtwu.net/#eev nor @eduardoochs I"m afraid.
@kentpitman

For what it's worth, I've made a career out of producing nothing but #libre (#Copyleft) software & providing related services... 31 years now. I'm against proprietary on principle: https://davelane.nz/proprietary

@dougmerritt @mdhughes

@carnage4life Good point & re: Brad Smith. His name is in the top five reasons why I stopped accepting "Brad" as my name circa 2001…I did not wanna share a name with the (then) General Counsel of $MSFT.

I think many don't realize that there is a *lawyer* (not a technologist) who has been President of Microsoft for years.

Brad Smith is also believed to be (we can't prove it — Microsoft state secrets) the mastermind behind the anti-#copyleft / anti-#GPL campaign of the early 2000s.

Cc: @liw

(*) in the late 1990s, I saw Henry Rollins do a spoken word live show at some dive venue in CIncinnati when I was in graduate school.

He opened the show by stating:

> “Hi, everyone. So, I want to let you know that my profession is now ’aging punk icon‘.”

I wonder if I should start opening my conference talks with

> Welcome. If this talk seems out of touch, you should know my profession is aging software freedom activist obsessed with #copyleft.

@lfa it sounds like people can express they DON'T want their works to be used in Al training via #AIPreferences , and that #CCSignal is for people that do want their work to be used in specific ways.

A great many people already post their work to the public domain, or creative commons: #AllRightsReversed , #CopyLeft or via similar licenses.

If #AiPreferences already supports the #NoAI preference then it makes sense to me to offer content creators #CcSignals for more fine tune control.