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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 15th December 2024

awful.systems/post/3015993

awful.systemsStubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 15th December 2024 - awful.systemsNeed to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret. Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no. If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high. > The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be) > > Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them. (Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this [https://awful.systems/post/1162442].)

So it turns out the healthcare assassin has some… boutique… views. (Yeah, I know, shocker.) Things he seems to be into:

  • Lab-grown meat
  • Modern architecture is rotten
  • Population decline is an existential threat
  • Elon Musk and Peter Thiel

How soon until someone finds his LessWrong profile?

@TinyTimmyTokyo @BlueMonday1984 lab-gown mest is fine tho. I'd be all over it if it ever works.
But yeah he'd fit right in on LW I'm sure

Edited based on later chat: eh
med-mastodon.com/@noodlemaz/11

one of the best articles I’ve ever read was an inch by inch teardown of the entire concept of mass produced lab grown meat: thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-… . it’s never, ever going to work at scale and I’d go so far as to say it’s the food equivalent of all the usual tech grifts we talk about here

The Counter · Lab-grown meat is supposed to be inevitable. The science tells a different story.Headlines have overshadowed inconvenient truths about biology and cost. Now, new research suggests the industry may be on a crash course with reality.

@sc_griffith thanks, that is a cool piece! Indeed having done plenty cell culture myself and seeing those shockingly astronomical meat consumption figures, the solutions seem much clearer to me. I doubt LGM will be a useful reality in my lifetime, maybe far in the future. So, people need to stop eating meat, and eat plants instead.

Many are already doing so! I've mostly stopped with meat myself, just some fish to go.

But we need political will. Change of culture. Sanctions on the US, etc :/

@sc_griffith stood out:
"a mature, scaled-up industry could eventually achieve a ratio of only 3-4 calories in for every calorie out, compared to the chicken’s 10 and the steer’s 25. That would still make cultured meat much more inefficient compared to just eating plants themselves... And the cells themselves might still be fed on a diet of commodity grains, the cheapest and most environmentally destructive inputs available. But it would represent a major improvement."

Noodlemaz

@sc_griffith last one (probably) - as I'm now working quite a lot adjacent to philanthropists (and find the whole concept and reality of that deeply morally unpleasant on many levels), v interesting interweaving of that aspect.

And again, comes back to the EA nonsense.
Sigh