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Starmer provokes diplomatic row by refusing to back #Canada against Trump’s #51stState plan | The Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/canada-51st-state-trump-starmer-b2706751.html “Retired Canadian ambassador Artur Wilczynski noted: “#Starmer’s refusing to come to Canada’s defence in front of #Trump is more than disappointing. Canadians died for the UK by the tens of thousands. He could have opened his bloody mouth to speak up for us.”
@auscandoc Yesterday an American pointed out to me that this is not a genuine threat as the GOP would not add a new blue state. He is up to something else or just blundering. Hopefully he has tipped the scales in #Canada against the cons is the coming election.
I'm not really surprised that many people, including the one you quote, refuse to understand that there won't be any free and fair elections in the near future.
@proscience @kgw @auscandoc I think its more likely Trump will aim to take a slice of Canada that is resource rich as Putin did with Ukraine, and say, we didn't invade, this was always US territory, we are just taking it back. And yeah, I don't see elections in the US being anything other than entirely corrupt, so the hope is through other ways of fighting back.
@Alexlee @proscience @kgw Yep. Running by the playbook.
https://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/wm14FRE_Sudeten_Germans_in_Canada_Tomslake_BC
@kgw @auscandoc canada would not be a blue state if we did join the union, dude. look at us. ontario gave the shitty incumbent fucking people over for years a majority super quick to own the libs, not for their own benefit.
@auscandoc Starmer is such a spineless piece of opportunist shit 
@auscandoc Starmer only does what Israel tells him to do
@auscandoc that’s what we get for electing a nonentity.
@auscandoc facepalms in unwillingly British 
@auscandoc
Would / could Starmer be the next Chamberlain?
And.. would that make Trump the next von Ribbentrop?
@eesger “Peace for our time”
“I think you are trying to find a divide between us that doesn’t exist”
@auscandoc I’m Dutch, we know all to well that it wasn’t all USA that saved us from Hitler.. Canada played a big role in it as well.. the difference was that Americans boasted about it much more..
I respected the USA for what they did for us 80 years ago.. they forced us into the war with Iraq and Afganistan.. but hey they were there for us.. and now this.. it feels like a knife in the back of your somewhat loudmouthed big brother you have trusted your whole life
@auscandoc 45,000 Canadians died in Europe during WW II, 55,000 wounded. Canada entered the war Sept 10 1939, 9 days after Britain declared war. US didn’t enter war til Dec 7 1942 after it was attacked by Japan. Canada didn’t wait to be attacked. https://www.veterans.gc.ca/en/remembrance/wars-and-conflicts/second-world-war
@BruceMirken @pinhman I think we all forget the internal USA resistance to involvement in WW2 (and the significant fascist sympathies) and that FDR had to be semi clandestine in his support of Churchill.
@auscandoc @BruceMirken @pinhman
Vietnam and WW2.
70% of Americans who served volunteered for one; only 40% volunteered for the other.
It was circling the world to fight for a nation they'd never heard of ("The 'Nam") against Communists that got the volunteers.
Going across the Atlantic to fight for descendants of their own ancestors against Fascism, was the one that only got 40%.
They have been a reliable POST-war partner. They watched 40,000 Londoners bombed by Nazis 18 months before..
@RoyBrander @auscandoc @pinhman You make it sound like the Vietnam war was more popular than WW II. It wasn't; the rules changed. The draft rules were amended in the 1950s and early 60s to exempt college students and married men with children (all married men untill 1965) from being drafted. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System
@auscandoc @pinhman I can't speak for others, but I don't. The trajectories of the 2 wars were entirely different. The America First movement was strong, with decidedly pro-fascist elements, but withered after Pearl Harbor. The Japanese attack changed everything. The draft was needed to raise a huge force from scratch instantly. Re: Vietnam, which I lived through, Americans gradually shifted from seeing it as a grim necessity to just an ugly mess.
#FBPE Starmer clearly believes that being friends with Jabba the Trump is more important than being allies and friends with countries that share the same values he profresses to believe in. He's drunk the Brexit Koolaid.
This sort of perfidy is why I chose to leave the country I was born and raised in in 2019.