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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.zergy.net/@Enalys" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Enalys</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/fanless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fanless</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a>…<ul><li>Becaise they barely sip power and are fine for the job!</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:Personally I am a sucker for recently surplus'd <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> as they offer decent computation for a cheap <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NAS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NAS</a> whilst being <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/fanless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fanless</a>. <ul><li>But I guess <a href="https://bbs.kawa-kun.com/users/lazygamereviews" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@lazygamereviews</a> would rather look at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/oddware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#oddware</a> with like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Transmeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Transmeta</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CPU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CPU</a>|s, because that's propably way more exciting than the most boring <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClient" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClient</a> there could be.</li></ul><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LGR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LGR</a>

jbz🌞 Using Sun Ray thin clients in 2025 • <a href="https://cloudisland.nz/@iris" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@iris</a><a href="https://catstret.ch/202506/sun-ray-shenanigans/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://catstret.ch/202506/sun-ray-shenanigans/</a><a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/sunray" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sunray</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/thinclients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#thinclients</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/illumos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#illumos</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/solaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#solaris</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#retrocomputing</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@ArpadLinks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ArpadLinks</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@greenpeace" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@greenpeace</a> I think the latter ideas won't be implementable legally, but whyt you mean with the former already exists with many <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AllInOnePCs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AllInOnePCs</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmbeddedComputer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EmbeddedComputer</a>|s: <ul><li>Low power, space-efficient computers that barely sip energy whilst being fully useable as Desktops.</li></ul>Besides <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/surplus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#surplus</a>'d Hardware and frightingly-expensive for their computational power <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Embedded" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Embedded</a> systems there's <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@frameworkcomputer</a> which sell you their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mainboards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mainboards</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CoolerMaster" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CoolerMaster</a> sells a matching low-profile <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/case" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#case</a> which allegedly has <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VESA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VESA</a>-Mounts, so you can easily screw that on the rear of a monitor and have a cheap <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AiO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AiO</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Desktop</a> that is also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/repairable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#repairable</a>. <ul><li>I hope that comes close to what you're looking for.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://merveilles.town/@csepp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@csepp</a> <a href="https://56k.dile-up.nl/users/fristi_ebooks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fristi_ebooks</a> I did deploy <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MiniServers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MiniServers</a> on occasion simply because they deliver good performance and barely sip power.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://corteximplant.com/@Sirs0ri" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Sirs0ri</a> np.I can recommend the "upcycling" & "reuse" route given <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> offer decent performance for a mini server and more often than not are completely fanless, making them excellent at home.<ul><li>I do use an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hp</a> t620 for that myself, and unlike the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ProBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ProBook</a>|s it seems hp didn't do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DRM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DRM</a> with the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RAM</a> on their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClient" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClient</a>|s... </li></ul>It's not that I don't say any other brand is bad, but those brands have been reliable to me and are known to use reliable & new components and not new-old-stock or "upcycled" chips ripped from older machines and sticks.<ul><li>And since you ain't looking for some "vintage" SD-RAM there's no need to dive into those.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@hzulla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@hzulla</a> <a href="https://soc.umrath.net/@thoralf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@thoralf</a> und wer auf superengem Budget ist kann sich gebrauchte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> ansehen.<ul><li>Nen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hp</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/t620" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#t620</a> zieht locker mit nem <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi0W" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pi0W</a> bzw. Mit GX-415GA - CPU locker mit nem <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pi4</a> gleich und ist für wenger Geld zu haben.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://fedi.sillykittens.net/@k4m1" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@k4m1</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@stman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@stman</a> yeah, according to <a href="http://realtek.info/pdf/rtl8139cp.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">the</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RTL8139" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RTL8139</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/datasheet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#datasheet</a> this is basically a very cheap 10/100M NIC designed <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/embedded" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#embedded</a> systems and low-end/low-cost desktops, and for a device designed and sold in 2006 it made sense, given back then <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gigabit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gigabit</a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ethernet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ethernet</a> and Cat.5 cabling was considered high-end.<ul><li>And unlike contemporary / successor chips by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Intel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Intel</a> like the famous <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/i210" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#i210</a> (which is still offered as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/i219" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#i219</a> but mostly succeeded by the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/i225" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#i225</a> as a 2,5GBase-T version) is way cheaper, which pre-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RoHS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RoHS</a> - NICs being sold for like € 10 retail & brand-new....</li></ul>The <a href="https://wiki.osdev.org/RTL8139" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">few issues known</a> only affect like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Virtualization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Virtualization</a> setups, a market this thing was never designed for (most likely also never tested against).<ul><li>I'd not he surprised if a lot of cheap <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> and other systems used these NICs because of the simplicity of integration, being a cheap 3,3V single-chip (+auxilliary electronics) solution and propably costling less than 10¢ on a reel of 10.000.</li></ul>It's the reason why to this day we see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Realtek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Realtek</a> NICs being shipped instead of fanning-out & enabling <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SoC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SoC</a>-integrated NICs with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MAC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MAC</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PHY" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PHY</a> instead: Because the auxilliary parts for those are more expensive than just getting a PCI(e lane) somewhere and plonking it down.<ul><li>Maybe there have even been some really cheap, low-end <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Routers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Routers</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firewalls" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firewalls</a> aiming at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SoHo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SoHo</a> customers back in those days, cuz back then 16MBit/s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ADSL2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ADSL2</a> was considered fast, and Realtek's NICs up until recently only delivered like 60-75% of the max. speed advertised, so by the time someone would notice, that gearvwould've been EoL'd anyway and those who did notice right-away never were the target audience to begin with.</li></ul>Most modern NICs are more complex and demand more configuration / driver support...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://netzkae.se/@daswarkeinhuhn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@daswarkeinhuhn</a> besonders Gebraucht sind <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> unschlagbar!<ul><li>Frag' <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> ...</li></ul>

Schenkl | 🏳️‍🌈🦄TIL: Laptop Netzteile von <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Fujitsu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fujitsu</a> funktionieren auch für die <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> von Fujitsu.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://cupoftea.social/@duckyfella" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@duckyfella</a> <a href="https://gamepad.club/@MaliciousCarp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@MaliciousCarp</a> Depends on the exact config and whether or not one just needs a stupid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dlna" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dlna</a> server (even the OG <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RaspberryPi</a> Model B can run <code>minidlna</code> fast enough to stream 1080p video with ease.<ul><li>There should also be some hardware transcoding stuff even on older <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AMD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AMD</a> Embedded SoCs with Radeon HD graphics.</li></ul>As for other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Server" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Server</a> tasks, the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/fanless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fanless</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> are perfect for offloading tasks like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Backups</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Filesharing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Filesharing</a> and "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Homelab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Homelab</a>|bing" aka. doing some "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FuckAroundAndFindOut" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FuckAroundAndFindOut</a>" - kind of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/testing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#testing</a>.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.skyshaper.org/users/derf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@derf</a> <a href="https://zug.network/@Lili" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Lili</a> wegen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stromkosten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Stromkosten</a> nutz' ich alte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/fanless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fanless</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hp</a> t520.<ul><li>Sind auch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AMD64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AMD64</a>.</li><li>können problemlos bis zu 2x 4GB DDR3-SODIMMs fressen.</li><li>ne 2240 M.2 B-Key SSD passt auch rein.</li><li>USB 3.0 und GBit-NIC reivhen für 08/15-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NAS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NAS</a>... </li><li>Hat genug Luft als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Downloadknecht" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Downloadknecht</a> alla <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ytdlp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ytdlp</a>...</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://digipres.club/@foone" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@foone</a> I guess people mistake them for the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Dell</a> sells under the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WYSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WYSE</a> brand to this day and think "Let's just charge people as much as they'd be willing to pay for those..."<ul><li>Personally I'd love to get my hands on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VT525" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VT525</a> because it's a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DEC</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/terminal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#terminal</a> with like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VGA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VGA</a> & PS/2 and not some big <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CRT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CRT</a>... </li></ul>Even tho I too would love some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/amber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#amber</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/green" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#green</a> in my room and would love to test those against <a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@OS1337</a>... <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuZUPpmXfT0" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuZUPpmXfT0</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://kirche.social/@jakob_thoboell" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@jakob_thoboell</a> @DigitalWriter@bildung.social <a href="https://social.cologne/@jdohrmann" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@jdohrmann</a> EXAKT DAS Sehe ich genauso.<ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Microsoft</a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lobbyismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Lobbyismus</a> im <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bildungssystem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Bildungssystem</a>, zusammen mit der Tatsache dass es (soweit ich weiß immernoch) möglich ist nen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Abitur" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Abitur</a> ohne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Informatikunterricht" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Informatikunterricht</a> zu erhalten ist erschreckend.</li></ul>Zumal <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MicrosoftOffice</a> nicht nur unbrauchbare <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Govware</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bloatware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Bloatware</a> sind, sondern deren nicht-standardkonformes Verhalten problematisch ist!<ul><li>Angesichts von <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@nextcloud" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nextcloud</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Nextcloud</a> und <a href="https://mastodon.social/@CollaboraOffice" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@CollaboraOffice</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CollaboraOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CollaboraOffice</a> gibt's IMHO umso weniger Gründe sich <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WinSchrott" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WinSchrott</a> anzutun, und umso meur Gründe <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Browser</a> auf <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a>-Basis einzusetzen, weil eh alles als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebApp</a> umsetzbar ist!</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:Because Iinstead of paying <a href="https://www.ebay.de/itm/304572247642" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">hundreds of $ for vintage hardware</a> of limited use, why not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/upcycle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#upcycle</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/convert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#convert</a> existing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/COTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#COTS</a> hardware <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client#Simplicity" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">like</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> and turn them into something <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/secure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#secure</a> that can still be used to some degree, even when they are too slow to run any decent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Desktop</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> like <a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tails_live</a> / <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@tails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tails</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tails</a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BunsenLabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BunsenLabs</a> or whatever...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.afront.org/@kwf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kwf</a> personally I love those <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/fanless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fanless</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> as they make power-saving <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MiniServers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MiniServers</a> that are cheap to buy and keep online and since they have no moving parts, maintenance is minimal...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://federated.saagarjha.com/users/saagar" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@saagar</a> nodds in agreement Can confirm this with testing, as I use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MiniServers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MiniServers</a> as I want to let development tasks for <a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@OS1337</a> run in the background, even if that means having a smol ramdisk and it taking a whole day to build a full image with the scripted pipeline.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mementomori.social/@nickmatavka" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nickmatavka</a> <a href="https://tailswish.industries/users/lightspill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@lightspill</a> case in point: Editors are a choice, like whether one wants to wear a red, green, blue or white shirt.Whereas the base OS and security cofigurations are like a safety helmet, high-vis jacket, certified safety boots and standarized radio with trip-over detection on the belt of anyone working in an industrial or construction site: <ul><li>"You WILL wear these or security WILL remove you from the site instantly!" </li></ul>Those things are just not debateable, because it's not even up for decision by the IT or even CTO & CEO but what regulators demand.<ul><li>Like proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/logging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#logging</a> infrastructure that secures all the essential systems and records any changes done to them in realtime, protocols them and thus prevents malicious actors from being unnoticed.</li></ul>Depending on the setup this ranges from "printing out every transaction in realtime in a locked room" (i.e. some smaller banks do) to "stashing away all syslogs with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/graylog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#graylog</a>" in other cases...<ul><li>And not just complying but exceeding standards of arbitrary complexity is one of the reasons I started <a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@OS1337</a>: Because at worst it's an easy to update system for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSH" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SSH</a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Terminals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Terminals</a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> and at best it's a solid foundation for my own <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IoT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IoT</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Embedded" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Embedded</a> projects...</li></ul>

Linh PhamI have one that that runs Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and runs as my UniFi Controller via a simple setup script.If I had to do it all over again, I would have installed Proxmox and ran it in a container or VM so that I could back it up that way to my NAS.You can spend a little bit more for the Extended version of the thin client, which gives you a low-profile PCIe expansion slot for an additional NIC, low power graphics card, or a low power HBA for external storage.<a href="https://linh.social/tags/HomeLab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HomeLab</a> <a href="https://linh.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://linh.social/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> <a href="https://linh.social/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> <a href="https://linh.social/tags/Computers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Computers</a>

Linh PhamIf you are considering getting some really cheap N100 computers or Raspberry Pi 5 boards to set up a relatively low power homelab, you may want to consider looking at Dell Wyse 5070 thin clients with a J4105 or J5005 processor.They are passively cooled, use a laptop power brick, support up to 8 GB of RAM, and use an M.2 SATA drive (not NVMe) and can be stood vertically or sat horizontally.Since companies are phasing them out, you can find lots of 5, 10, 25+ on eBay and other corporate off-lease auctions for around $30-45 each.Getting FreeBSD, Debian, Fedora, NixOS, Arch or any other distribution on them is pretty darn easy. As such, Proxmox is also an option for lightweight containers.There are some minor tweaks to the firmware settings to allow fwupdmgr to update the firmware version properly (otherwise, use a USB boot drive).Sure, they are bigger than most N100 or Pi 5 with a case, but the thin clients are sturdy AF and you don't have to worry about fly-by-night sellers hawking N100 systems.HP thin clients would also work, but I haven't used them before as a homelab server.<a href="https://linh.social/tags/HomeLab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HomeLab</a> <a href="https://linh.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://linh.social/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> <a href="https://linh.social/tags/ThinClients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ThinClients</a> <a href="https://linh.social/tags/Computers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Computers</a>

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