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Via mon adresse #protonmail , mes courriels envoyés à des contacts #gmail sont non délivrés avec le message suivant :

"The message contains a unicode character in a disallowed
header. For 550-5.7.1 more information, go to 550-5.7.1"

Je vais retirer l’emoji dans le nom affiché et retester.

Got a reply from #protonMail "We do use LLM to generate some code, however, all code is still thoroughly tested and reviewed for security." Not really comforting given that the big LLMs are so opposed to their basic values! And letting a chatbot scrape your files opens a giant attack surface.

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@nicolasvivant juste pour mon information personnelle... #protonmail est à mettre au même niveau que l'hébergement aux US ?
Je sais que le ceo de Proton a eu quelques mots surprenants/malheureux concernant #trump et #maga tout en rétropédalant largement par la suite. Pour le reste, la plate-forme semble tenir la route en termes de sécurité/ confidentialité.
(Je dis ça parce que je suis en train d'évaluer leurs services...)

Merci

So:

I'm going to China again in September (the last time was Feb 2020 and boy, that was a trip, I was masking before it was popular).

I quite like being online. I also am currently in the google ecosystem.

I notice that Protonmail has a good reputation and seems to offer similar services.

Now is your choice, fedizens, to tell me why they're a terrible company and not to be trusted.

10 minutes pour comprendre : pourquoi Proton quitte la Suisse ?

La Confédération, autrefois symbole de la « Swiss Privacy », veut brancher un tuyau de surveillance en temps réel (OSCPT 2025) sur tous les services de plus de 5 000 utilisateurs, avec l'ambition d'aspirer toutes les métadonnées.

Proton, pionnier du mail chiffré né au CERN, refuse de livrer vos métadonnées : 100 millions CHF d’infrastructures partent vers l’Allemagne et la Norvège.

#protonmail #proton

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www.infothema.fr[Christophe Boutry] Pourquoi Proton quitte la Suisse ? 10minutes pour comprendre[Christophe Boutry] Pourquoi Proton quitte la Suisse ? 10minutes pour comprendre

Buried in Proton's AI announcement today is a pretty shocking detail about their service 👀

Because of legal uncertainty around Swiss government proposals to introduce mass surveillance — proposals that have been outlawed in the EU — Proton is moving most of its physical infrastructure out of Switzerland. Lumo will be the first product to move.

Proton · Introducing Lumo: AI where every conversation is confidential | ProtonLumo gives you the power to solve problems big and small, while keeping your personal data confidential. Try it now.
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@deirdrebeth @Matt_the_bad_writer If you're interested in user opinions: I've been using #ProtonMail for a couple years, ish, and it works reasonably well for the most part, but a lot of UI actions feel a bit slow (probably necessary to some extent because of the E2E encryption), and there are some, like swipe-to-archive, that behave in unusual ways. But my main gripes are:
- Filtering is *painfully* slow. Any change to filters takes on the order of an hour to take effect.
- Proton vastly restricts the ability to use different email addresses at a custom domain. I can set up a catch-all address to receive anything sent to my domain, but sending mail from any new address requires a settings change, and I'm limited to 16 active sending addresses.

There was also a thing some months ago about some inappropriate political statements made by Proton's CEO, and the company has never tried to distance itself from that AFAIK.

So I'm not exactly displeased with Proton, but I'm keeping my eyes open for alternatives.

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@Theeo123

Perhaps another reason to de-Google. I'm working on the transition and it feels right. GrapheneOS is my next step. Google, and much of the Internet, has become far too invasive.

I switched my PCs to Linux years ago. That was a good move for me. It's been a refreshing change.

AI is everywhere now and getting more powerful every day. I'm just trying to claw back some degree of control over my personal data, though I realize it's too little, too late and perhaps fruitless.

De-Googling feels good at least, just like de-Windowing did!

I'd like to hear what steps are others taking...

#AI #De-Google #Android #Pixel #GrapheneOS #LinuxMint #Privacy #Security #ProtonMail

Still seeking a good replacement for Proton bc they're not rly going in directions I like. Prob is that they are kind of flagship standard, so it'll be about what features we're okay without.

We know about Tuta and that's off the table and I'm not rly interested in "but why" discussions, it is enough to say they've been ruled out for legit reasons.

What we are looking for:

- End to end encryption @ rest (this should be standard for all providers IMO)
- Multiple domains
- Easy backups of entire mailbox (bridge or whatever)
- Not hosted in Five Eyes nation states (ideally)
- Ideally, disdain for AI.

Not rly asking just sharing.