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IndieAuthors.Social News<p>Writing in Layers</p><p>What painting taught me about novel writing Continue reading on The Writing Cooperative »<br><a href="https://writingcooperative.com/writing-in-layers-af83af764f4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">writingcooperative.com/writing</span><span class="invisible">-in-layers-af83af764f4</span></a></p><p><a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/creativeprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>creativeprocess</span></a> <a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/writingadvice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingadvice</span></a> <a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/howtowriteanovel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>howtowriteanovel</span></a> <a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> <a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/visuallearning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>visuallearning</span></a><br><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/indieauthors" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>indieauthors</span></a></span></p>
Daniel MacKillican<p>Is it just me, or do other writers feel bad leaving their characters in a bad situation while they go make a coffee? Or worse—abandoning them for days, until the urge to hammer at the keyboard strikes again?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WritingCommunity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingCommunity</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AmWriting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AmWriting</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AuthorLife" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AuthorLife</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IndieAuthor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IndieAuthor</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HorrorWriters" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HorrorWriters</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WritersOfMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritersOfMastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CharacterGuilt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CharacterGuilt</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WritersGuilt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritersGuilt</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a></p>
IndieAuthors.Social News<p>Why Most Books Fail Before Making Any Sales</p><p>Hint: It's not because it's good or bad. Continue reading on The Writing Cooperative »<br><a href="https://writingcooperative.com/why-most-books-fail-before-making-any-sales-5115e535b0e" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">writingcooperative.com/why-mos</span><span class="invisible">t-books-fail-before-making-any-sales-5115e535b0e</span></a></p><p><a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> <a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> <a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/selfpublishing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>selfpublishing</span></a> <a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/fictionwriting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fictionwriting</span></a> <a href="https://indieauthors.social/tags/bookmarketing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bookmarketing</span></a><br><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/indieauthors" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>indieauthors</span></a></span></p>
Katrin Henzel<p>endlich da und open access: a comparative history of the literary draft: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1075/chlel.xxxv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">doi.org/10.1075/chlel.xxxv</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> hg. v. olga beloborodova u. dirk van hulle. mit beiträgen "across geographical, temporal, linguistic, generic and media boundaries"<br><a href="https://openbiblio.social/tags/manuscripts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>manuscripts</span></a> <a href="https://openbiblio.social/tags/GeneticCriticism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeneticCriticism</span></a> <a href="https://openbiblio.social/tags/LitWiss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LitWiss</span></a> <a href="https://openbiblio.social/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> <a href="https://openbiblio.social/tags/creativity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>creativity</span></a></p>
scholar_farmer<p><a href="https://zirk.us/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a>: I tend to "write what comes to mind" (aka disorganized mess) as a rough draft writer, so yesterday's agenda was to create a logical flow out of all of the cool things I had down. </p><p>For me, this actually meant creating a written outline in a notebook (in felt tip pen) as I worked paragraph by paragraph through what was down on the electronic page. </p><p>At the end, there were a few arrows, and I've highlighted some things that probably won't fit in (sob), but ... it works! <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/AmWriting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AmWriting</span></a></p>
mauszfabrick ☄️<p>☄️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MEIN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MEIN</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> 📝</p><p>1️⃣ tage, wochen-, jahrelanges dasitzen &amp; LAUERN<br>2️⃣ grenzenlose euphorie über DIE IDEE <br>3️⃣ bodenlose enttäuschung über das was dann dasteht <br>4️⃣ 5 sec vor deadline irgendwas zusammenmurksen<br>5️⃣ jahre später lesen &amp; denken damals hatte ich ES noch <br>🔄 repeat</p>
Assoc for Scottish Literature<p>That Crafty Artifice: Stevenson’s Brownies and the writing process</p><p>“Stevenson relates examples of vivid dreams at length, as illustrations of this detailed, indigenous creation of narrative material, but also as a pathology which leads to the reification of such dream residuum in the Strange Case of Dr Jekyll &amp; Mr Hyde…”</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/Scottish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scottish</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/literature" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>literature</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/dreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dreams</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/RobertLouisStevenson" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RobertLouisStevenson</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/19thcentury" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>19thcentury</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/WorldSleepDay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WorldSleepDay</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/Writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Writing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://www.thebottleimp.org.uk/2018/07/that-crafty-artifice-stevensons-brownies-and-the-writing-process/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">thebottleimp.org.uk/2018/07/th</span><span class="invisible">at-crafty-artifice-stevensons-brownies-and-the-writing-process/</span></a></p>
Jesse Miksic<p>Having gathered my recent poetry into a packet for editing, I am nearing the end of the sheaf, and I am getting burnt out on this editing process.</p><p>Each time I read a new one, I feel the little spark that I originally felt in writing it</p><p>And editing them feels strangely like I am doing some sort of violence to that lingering version of myself</p><p><a href="https://zirk.us/tags/poetry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>poetry</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/editing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>editing</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/poetryCommunity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>poetryCommunity</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a></p>
fromjason.xyz ❤️ 💻<p>For my last five or so essays, I’ve settled into this <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> where each morning I’ll write 500 words, which may or may not build on the previous morning’s draft.</p><p>I do this until I have about three thousand words, and then I look for a common thread. If I find it, I edit. If I don’t, I keep writing, or I throw it in drafts.</p><p>Or I cry. It’s a coin toss, really.</p>
Alberto Chimal<p>Acabar el año <a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/escribiendo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>escribiendo</span></a> = 🥰.<br>Todo puede salir mal con lo ya publicado, pero nada se compara con el tiempo de <a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/crear" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>crear</span></a>.<br>✨<br>To finish the year <a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> = ❤️<br>Everything can go wrong once something is published, but nothing compares to the time of <a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/creation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>creation</span></a>.<br><a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/personal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>personal</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/escritura" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>escritura</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/EscrituraCreativa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EscrituraCreativa</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/CreativeWriting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CreativeWriting</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.mx/tags/ProcesoDeEscritura" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ProcesoDeEscritura</span></a></p>
scholar_farmer<p>On getting "unstuck":</p><p>* Set a time limit<br>* 5-minute: only work for 5 minutes and then decide if going to continue.<br>* Do some backwards planning: if the final thing is do X, then a draft is needed Y; so then I'd need my notes together by Z; which means I need my materials by A; which means I need to order things from the annex or interlibrary loan by B -- so there's still time to get this done!<br>* make a checklist to see your progress<br>* Do a Pomodoro!</p><p>3/3 fin</p><p><a href="https://zirk.us/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/unstuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>unstuck</span></a></p>
scholar_farmer<p>On getting "unstuck": </p><p>* Turn on/turn off music<br>* Make an outline, bullet point, etc, and turn that into additive work. (Go from one bullet point, make many)<br>* Look at others’ work (reading other people): get inspired!<br>* Physical manifestations of angst: kick a soccer ball or indulge in a scream-session<br>* Keep trudging through it in hopes that you’ll get through the block<br>* Try a different angle</p><p>2/3</p><p><a href="https://zirk.us/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/unstuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>unstuck</span></a></p>
scholar_farmer<p>I worked with my freshmen yesterday on how to get "unstuck" when working on a big research project, and here are some of our answers: </p><p>* Talk it out with someone<br>* Take a moment to brainstorm<br>* Chunk it into super simple tasks<br>* Write what you’re worried about &amp; review it (it's usually not so bad!)<br>* Change media (computer &gt; paper &gt; scrap &gt; etc)<br>* Take a walk<br>* Change of scenery / food / workout<br>* Do something else productive</p><p>1/3</p><p><a href="https://zirk.us/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/unstuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>unstuck</span></a></p>
Elis Rowlands<p>I've finished two <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/ShortStories" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ShortStories</span></a> I'm <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> for my <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/CreativeWriting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CreativeWriting</span></a> <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/dissertation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dissertation</span></a>. They need some <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/editing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>editing</span></a>, but I'll do that after I get some distance and <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/write" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>write</span></a> the next <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/story" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>story</span></a>.</p><p>The word count is 7000, and I've got about 1500 words to go, but right now I've used up all my <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/WritingInspiration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingInspiration</span></a>. It should be pretty simple when I get some <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/ideas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ideas</span></a>, but until I get past this <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/WritersBlock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritersBlock</span></a> I'm stuck.</p><p><a href="https://toot.wales/tags/AmWriting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AmWriting</span></a> <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/WritingCommunity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingCommunity</span></a> <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/writer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writer</span></a> <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/writers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writers</span></a> <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a> <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/WritersOfMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritersOfMastodon</span></a> <a href="https://toot.wales/tags/ShortStory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ShortStory</span></a></p>
scholar_farmer<p>Yay, got a conference abstract done and in!</p><p>Today's self-trickery was to put up the whiteboard in the middle of the living room floor and stand there writing stuff in multi-colored ink until it started making sense.</p><p>Then I did five drafts at the computer.</p><p>It's okay not to get it right the first time.</p><p><a href="https://zirk.us/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/amwriting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>amwriting</span></a> <a href="https://zirk.us/tags/AcWri" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AcWri</span></a></p>
Stephanie Burgis<p>This month's Patron Q&amp;A video is up now! Subscribe to my Patreon from just $1/month to hear me answer questions, not only about my own writing plans, but about how to analyze other writers' work and how to get back into a project after too long away from it: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/88035911" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">patreon.com/posts/88035911</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://wandering.shop/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> <a href="https://wandering.shop/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a></p>
Zumbador<p>Thinking about writing process.<br>I'm a very big world builder / planner / outliner, often spending months planning before I start writing. </p><p>But then I inevitably deviate from that plan once the story starts flowing.</p><p>it's as if the planning phase is like an archaeologist in their office, figuring out where the hidden mosaic might be, and speculating about what it might look like. And the writing is like being on site, uncovering the story-mosaic, and finding that it's quite different from what you guessed in the planning stage.</p><p>Or, the planning stage is like creating a trap for the story-beast, constructing it according to how you think that beast might be. What bait would attract it, what snares would entrap it?</p><p>And the writing is finding that story-beast dubiously snuffling around the trap, and realising that you don't need to trap it after all. It's willing to talk to you, if you're patient enough to listen.</p><p><a href="https://mefi.social/tags/WritingCommunity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingCommunity</span></a> <a href="https://mefi.social/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a> <a href="https://mefi.social/tags/FantastyBooks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FantastyBooks</span></a></p>
Stephanie Burgis<p>If you'd like to ask me anything about writing, publishing, or more for this month's Q&amp;A video, today is your last chance! Just sign up to my Patreon for $1/month or higher to leave your questions: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/may-2023-any-82551361" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">patreon.com/posts/may-2023-any</span><span class="invisible">-82551361</span></a></p><p><a href="https://wandering.shop/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a> <a href="https://wandering.shop/tags/patreon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>patreon</span></a></p>
Stephanie Burgis<p>If you write or make art of any kind, it is so worth reading this weekend's lovely, generous newsletter from Kate Clayborn: <a href="https://kateclayborn.substack.com/p/your-writing-prompts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">kateclayborn.substack.com/p/yo</span><span class="invisible">ur-writing-prompts</span></a></p><p>(Also, her books are wonderful!)</p><p><a href="https://wandering.shop/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> <a href="https://wandering.shop/tags/WritingProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WritingProcess</span></a></p>
Helen McLaughlin Art<p>Finished the second draft of novel no.2 today, which is the point I start sending it out to beta readers. Very pleased to have reached this stage!<br><a href="https://mastodon.art/tags/writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.art/tags/novel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>novel</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.art/tags/scifi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>scifi</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.art/tags/writingprocess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>writingprocess</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.art/tags/novelist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>novelist</span></a> <br>My first novel is already available, if you wanted:<br><a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BW7DG2BR" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BW7DG2BR</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br>Epub: <a href="https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/subject-alpha" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/subject-a</span><span class="invisible">lpha</span></a></p>