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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Chiquidrakula" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Chiquidrakula</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/@COSAntiFascists" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@COSAntiFascists</a> <a href="https://neuromatch.social/@iris" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@iris</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Em0nM4stodon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Em0nM4stodon</a> <a href="https://mastodon.earth/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cryptoparty@mastodon.earth</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cryptoparty@chaos.social</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@thunderbird</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FACT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FACT</a>: It's not real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#E2EE</a> unless you have100% <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SelfCustody</a> of all the keys!<ul><li>By contrast, <a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@monocles</a> are <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/services/mail.service/#security_of_keys" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">upfront and honest</a> that if you use their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebMailer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebMailer</a>'s built-in Encryption / Decryption, your Keys *will be stored on the Servers [Something that <a href="https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@protonprivacy</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ProtonMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ProtonMail</a> does too but tries to leave out as a little detail]...</li></ul>Thus the correct way as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#monoclesMail</a> says is to <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/services/mail.service/#full_access_with_any_standard_client_of_your_choice_for_email" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">use your own client and keep your keys to yourself</a>.<ul><li>Cuz unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Proton" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Proton</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#monocles</a> actually offer <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/services/mail.service/#full_access_with_any_standard_client_of_your_choice_for_email" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">standard protocols</a> to use with <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/services/mail.service/#client_setup" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">regular eMail clients</a></li></ul>Now OFC, monocles charge <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/account/account/#comparison_chart" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">€2 p.m. for their starter account</a> but they <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/account/account/#where_how_to_buy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">also accept</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SEPA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SEPA</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WireTransfer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WireTransfer</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Monero</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CashByMail</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stripe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Stripe</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PayPal</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/payments" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#payments</a>, so it's pretty flexible and affordable given they don't put <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ads</a> in your <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/inbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#inbox</a> or invade user privacy!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://chaos.social/@necrosis" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@necrosis</a> <a href="https://social.mailbox.org/@mailbox_org" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mailbox_org</a> gute Frage...Manuell verschieben?<ul><li>Wegen sowas nutz' ich keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Webmailer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Webmailer</a> sondern <a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@thunderbird</a> !</li></ul>

dreamchipperInfo vom <a href="https://bildung.social/tags/KM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KM</a> zum <a href="https://bildung.social/tags/DAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DAP</a> in <a href="https://bildung.social/tags/eduBW" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#eduBW</a>…der Digitale Arbeitsplatz für Lehrkräfte ist eine browserbasierte Umsetzung mit einem <a href="https://bildung.social/tags/Webmailer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Webmailer</a>. Gleiches gilt für den Datenspeicher auf Basis von <a href="https://bildung.social/tags/Nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nextcloud</a>. Der Datenspeicher umfasst 10 GB pro Lehrkraft und der E-Mail-Speicher 1 GB pro Lehrkraft.<a href="https://bildung.social/tags/fedilz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fedilz</a>

tbones<a href="https://bildung.social/@birgitlachner" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@birgitlachner</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@PL_RLP" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@PL_RLP</a> Hallo Birgit, <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/IServ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IServ</a> ist kein LMS und bietet explizit auch keine Moodle-Instanz an. Die große Stärke ist die Kombi aus HW-Verwaltung, einfaches <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/BYOD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BYOD</a> und einem <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Webmailer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Webmailer</a> für SuS (auch KuK, sofern gewünscht) + andere Features.

Patrick DörnWir haben einen Kunden, der verschickt alle Mails signiert per <a href="https://mstdn.doern.tech/tags/SMIME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SMIME</a>. Nur ein Bruchteil seiner Kunden kann die Mails lesen, da alle gängigen <a href="https://mstdn.doern.tech/tags/Webmailer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Webmailer</a> einfach NICHTS anzeigen und selbst Outlook für iOS zeigt nichts an. Nur OWA/Exchange und die Desktopanwendungen funktionieren.

Feilner ITThen, of course, there's <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Roundcube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Roundcube</a> . Is there any other reasonable <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/webmailer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webmailer</a> left, on <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/enterprise" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#enterprise</a> level? I'm loving it. <a href="https://mastodon.online/@roundcuber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@roundcuber</a> 2/

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://yiff.life/@EeveeEuphoria" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@EeveeEuphoria</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Gmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gmail</a> is utter garbage and the fact that it can't even sort emails "unread first" in 2023 makes it a useless <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Webmailer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Webmailer</a>... Shit like it is why I use <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Thunderbird</a>...

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