Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@krutonium" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>krutonium</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@quasigod" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>quasigod</span></a></span> I mean the advantage is that those devices are supported with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>GrapheneOS</span></a></span> ...</p><ul><li>Whether you choose them or not is up to you... </li></ul><p>Personally, I need my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToolfreeSwappableBattery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToolfreeSwappableBattery</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DualSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DualSIM</span></a> <em>and</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/microSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>microSD</span></a> as well s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HeadphoneJack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HeadphoneJack</span></a> and won't negotiate these, so <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fairphone</span></a> is already loosing me as a customer and my next device will likely be something else...</p>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://labyrinth.zone/users/halva" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>halva</span></a></span> +9001%</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HeadphoneJack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HeadphoneJack</span></a> is a <em>non-negotiable <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MustHave" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MustHave</span></a></em>! </li></ul><p>Just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToolfreeSwappableBattery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToolfreeSwappableBattery</span></a> and real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DualSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DualSIM</span></a> (not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a>! If I want that I'll get that myself...)</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hessen.social/@ustralien" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ustralien</span></a></span> Sadly no, and that's my big disappointment!</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> decided to choose the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a>-esque <em>"flat cells below <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/trackpad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>trackpad</span></a>"</em> design in the <em>unreasonable <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/THINN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>THINN</span></a>-ness race</em> instead of doing what even the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EeePC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EeePC</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Sony</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Vaio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Vaio</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/P11Z" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>P11Z</span></a> did and have a slot at the back to chug in batteries!</p><ul><li>I know <em>why</em> they did it, as a closed aluminium pan aka. <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/lunchbox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lunchbox</span></a>"</em> design is easier to fabricate, but I'd rather some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToolfreeSwappableBattery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToolfreeSwappableBattery</span></a> which are IMHO of more practicality than having the ability to swap out every port.</li></ul><p>Not that I don't like those <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/modules" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>modules</span></a>, but I'd rather wish for a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/THICC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>THICC</span></a>-er"</em> device if that gets me essentials like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ethernet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ethernet</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USB</span></a>-A & -C as well as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TRRS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TRRS</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HeadphoneJack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HeadphoneJack</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HeadsetJack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HeadsetJack</span></a>. </p><ul><li>I mean, I understand they won't make space for a underslung <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Dock</span></a>, a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slimline" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Slimline</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ODD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ODD</span></a> or god forbid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ExpressCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ExpressCard</span></a>, and in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> I'd welcome <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thunderbolt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Thunderbolt</span></a> over <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OCuLink" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OCuLink</span></a>, but there's a reason I've not canceled the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NUCbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NUCbook</span></a> and if I didn't have to buy/procure <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/COTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>COTS</span></a> products I'd likely just buy a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi500" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Pi500</span></a> with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Powerbank" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Powerbank</span></a> and screen slapped on...</li></ul><p>That being said the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> is still by a long margin the <em>"least <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enshittified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>enshittified</span></a>"</em> device on the market, and same goes for the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fairphone</span></a> devices...</p><ul><li>I just wished <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> and Fairphone were just refusing the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> trend entirely, cuz I'd rather have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Toughbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Toughbook</span></a>-Style device made out of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thinkpadnium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Thinkpadnium</span></a> or even better <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nokianite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nokianite</span></a> than some fancy Aluminium stuff if that makes it more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/repairable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>repairable</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/upradeable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>upradeable</span></a> and espechally doesn't result in a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Downgrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Downgrade</span></a>. </li></ul><p>Not to mention they don't have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UltraNav" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UltraNav</span></a>-Style <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trackpoint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trackpoint</span></a> and I do <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ya4dUZfTQ&t=36s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">use</a> that instead of a Trackpad.</p><ul><li>The only reason I'm not daily driving my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/P11Z" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>P11Z</span></a> anymore is because until I got <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> into a useable state it's hardware, which was already <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LowEnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LowEnd</span></a> at launch, can barely run <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@bunsenlabs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bunsenlabs</span></a></span> and thus is not an option for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DailyDriving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DailyDriving</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desktop</span></a> workflows anyways...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Do I interpret this correctly, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> ?</p><p>You're working on a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ToolfreeSwappableBattery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToolfreeSwappableBattery</span></a> version of your laptops?</p><p>Cuz that's the one thing I really want to see - ideally on a 13" device!</p><p>Also please let me know once you got a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/USB_C" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USB_C</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PowerDelivery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PowerDelivery</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Charger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Charger</span></a> that can do 240W / 48V @ 5A because I could really use such a beast...<br> <br><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754836/180w-240w-framework-usb-c-pd-charger" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754836</span><span class="invisible">/180w-240w-framework-usb-c-pd-charger</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kafeneio.social/@baskin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>baskin</span></a></span> reminds me of the closest thing to this done by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.weho.st/@Fairphone" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Fairphone</span></a></span> which pointed out that people could jist <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/repair" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>repair</span></a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/reuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reuse</span></a> their devices by i.e. buying a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ToolfreeSwappableBattery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToolfreeSwappableBattery</span></a> instead of a new device.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Not to mention it's an absolute <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AssholeMove" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeMove</span></a> by all <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Laptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Laptop</span></a> manufacturers to not have a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ToolfreeSwappableBattery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToolfreeSwappableBattery</span></a> on their device!</p><p>Because there is no valid reason for that shit, when <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Panasonic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Panasonic</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Toughbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Toughbook</span></a> CF-19 were <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/waterproof" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>waterproof</span></a> with toolfree swappable battery and devices like the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Sony</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Vaio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Vaio</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/P11Z" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>P11Z</span></a> were thin & light yet had toolfree-swappable batteries...<br> <br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNwDbYnGu0" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=VsNwDbYnGu</span><span class="invisible">0</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Personally, if I had to buy a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Laptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Laptop</span></a>, it would be a <span class="h-card"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> since the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NUCbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NUCbook</span></a> isn't ready...</p><p>And I'd encourage others to also make that choice.<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-Lggf2TXc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=vx-Lggf2TX</span><span class="invisible">c</span></a></p><p>It's just that it's missing a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ToolfreeSwappableBattery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToolfreeSwappableBattery</span></a> as essential & non-negotiable feature for me!</p>
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