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Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:🧵 2/5 Further, the “native” connection to EWS/OWA within Thunderbird is only available in 140 when you enable a custom setting (search for “ews”). What you see in the new Account Hub will depend on whether that custom setting is enabled. <a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#thunderbird</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tb140</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EAS4TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#exchange</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ews</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#owa</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eas</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#imap</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pop3</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#smtp</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GraphAPI</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</a>

Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:🧵 4/5 Until now, I have been using IMAP+SMTP, and TbSync for address books and calendars. After going through a few iterations, I have now settled on using Exchange (native, experimental) accounts (yes, plural) for email and sticking with TbSync for calendars and address books.<a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#thunderbird</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tb140</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EAS4TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#exchange</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ews</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#owa</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eas</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#imap</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pop3</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#smtp</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GraphAPI</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</a>

Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:🧵 3/5 Right now, Exchange requires add-ons to work. Usually this means TbSync or OWL. Each of these has its own set of features and limitations to consider. Account Hub will show you Exchange in two flavors… one says “add-on required” and the other doesn’t. It’s the latter one that is the native integration in experimental form at this time (and does email ONLY for now). <a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#thunderbird</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tb140</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EAS4TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#exchange</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ews</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#owa</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eas</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#imap</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pop3</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#smtp</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GraphAPI</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</a>

Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:🧵 1/5 <a href="https://mastodon.ie/@padraig" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@padraig</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@thunderbird</a> Took a little searching but I am working again! Yay. The complexity is that which setup to use with Exchange can be legacy (POP3, IMAP+SMTP, EAS, EWS/OWA) or current Graph API. Thunderbird 140 supports all of the legacy API but not yet Graph API.<a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#thunderbird</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tb140</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EAS4TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#exchange</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ews</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#owa</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eas</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#imap</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pop3</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#smtp</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GraphAPI</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</a>

Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:🧵 5/5 TbSync was a small challenge because, as has happened in the past with major Thunderbird updates, it was declared unsupported and automatically disabled by Thunderbird 140esr. Following the instructions in <a href="https://github.com/jobisoft/TbSync/issues/753#issuecomment-3051737579" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/jobisoft/TbSync/issues/753#issuecomment-3051737579</a> (file-based reinstall of TbSync and EAS-4-TbSync) resolves the issue for now.<a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#thunderbird</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tb140</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EAS4TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#exchange</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ews</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#owa</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eas</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#imap</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pop3</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#smtp</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GraphAPI</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</a>

Jan de Muijnck-HughesI do with that <a href="https://discuss.systems/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Microsoft</a> would sponsor/develop tighter integration (more open extensive API) between <a href="https://discuss.systems/tags/Office365" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Office365</a> <a href="https://discuss.systems/tags/Outlook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Outlook</a>/Calendar/ToDo/Groups/#Teams and external clients. <a href="https://discuss.systems/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Thunderbird</a> with <a href="https://discuss.systems/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TbSync</a> only goes so far. (Even meeting support is not 100%, AFAICT)I do not want to log on through the browser *just* to like an email, and avoid sending unnecessary emails...I believe that if you give people the freedom on how to interact with you, they may be more willing to interact.

Debacle<a href="https://loma.ml/profile/z428" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@z428</a> <a href="https://floss.social/@gisgeek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gisgeek</a> I use <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Debian</a> 12 <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/bookworm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bookworm</a> at work, but I'm on <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/exwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#exwm</a> (= X11, not wayland) until <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Emacs</a> catches up. This works OK with multiple screens.I have various problems, though: Worst problem is, can't easily schedule a meeting, because I did not yet find out, how I can see my colleagues appointments with <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/eas4tbsync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#eas4tbsync</a> in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Thunderbird</a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/tbsync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tbsync</a>.Also, selecting the right camera, microphone and speaker with <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> (<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JitsiMeet</a>, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/BBB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BBB</a>) fails randomly.Not sure, if other distros fix that?

Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:<a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@thunderbird</a> If anyone’s still checking, the working fix for the <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TbSync</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Exchange</a> provider is posted as a ZIP in <a href="https://github.com/jobisoft/EAS-4-TbSync/issues/215#issuecomment-1416725608" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/jobisoft/EAS-4-TbSync/issues/215#issuecomment-1416725608</a>. Last I checked it hadn’t hit the addon source. But if you’re in a hurry, it’s available.

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