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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>JessTheUnstill</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Pibble" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Pibble</span></a></span> </p><p>If your threat model is "<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill/114297926333193887" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">theft of devices by cops</a>", make shure to be <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F59iKSrx63c" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">able to commit</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssetDenial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssetDenial</span></a> <em>or</em> have nothing on the devices they can use!</p><ul><li>Burner <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StupidPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhones</span></a> and (e)SIM-Cards are cheap. keep them switched off and the battery pulled out!</li></ul><p>I'd consider wasting €20 on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StupidPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhone</span></a>, €20 on a rewriteable <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMcard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMcard</span></a> and €10-20 on an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> a <em>"necessary expense"</em> and I'd gladly show people how to get that stuff and not burn their opsec/anonymity by doing so...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.nl/@Germo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Germo</span></a></span> The problem I have is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> restricts my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FreedomOfChoice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreedomOfChoice</span></a> re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Devices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Devices</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Yes, I do use <em>multiple devices</em> and I want to be able to pick them freely.</li></ul><p>Same with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a>: I can put that on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Card" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Card</span></a> *but I can't swap the soldered-down <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Chip</span></a>!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fairphone</span></a> could've offered / included an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMcard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMcard</span></a> (yes, these do exist!) and thus solved the entire issue: offering <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DualSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DualSIM</span></a> without the need of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TripleSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TripleSIM</span></a>-capable <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Baseband" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Baseband</span></a>!</li></ul><p>And yes, I routinely use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMcards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMcards</span></a> because I get the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/freedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freedom</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/flexibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flexibility</span></a> of choice, because it's <em>noone's business</em> which <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/device" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>device</span></a> I use Which <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/plans" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>plans</span></a> on!</p><ul><li>And whilst courts in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> ruled it's illegal to charge for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeciceSwaps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeciceSwaps</span></a> re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMs</span></a>, that is only enforceable against <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MNO</span></a>|s &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MVNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MVNO</span></a>|s from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a>! </li></ul><p>Plus many plans I want to use and/or help people to setup are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIMonly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIMonly</span></a> and not available as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/netzclub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>netzclub</span></a>)...</p><ul><li>No, eSIM is <em>NOT</em> a <a href="https://mastodon.nl/@Germo/113906252585895220" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sufficient replacement</a> even by the sheer fact that most of my devices <em>can't even manage an eSIM Card</em> unless that would he possible just with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICCDcodes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICCDcodes</span></a> and *"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIMtoolkit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIMtoolkit</span></a>" / embedded Firmware on the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIMcard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIMcard</span></a>! </li></ul><p>I dare you to try to deploy an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2Gonly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>2Gonly</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StupidPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhone</span></a> whereas a regular SIM can just be chugged in!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pfalz.social/@Saupreiss" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Saupreiss</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@unixtippse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>unixtippse</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toot.berlin/@der_mit_ph" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>der_mit_ph</span></a></span> </p><p><em>ALL DAS</em> sind <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Downgrades" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Downgrades</span></a> in sachen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UX</span></a>! </p><ul><li>Ich kann ja verstehen wenn entsprechende <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lades%C3%A4ulen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ladesäulen</span></a> autonom und ohne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Personal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Personal</span></a> laufen sollen, aber was hindert die daran wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tankautomaten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tankautomaten</span></a> und neuere <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Parkscheinautomaten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Parkscheinautomaten</span></a> einfach ne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ec</span></a>-Karte mit NFC &amp; PIN zu akzeptieren?<br></li></ul><p>Das gibt's vandalismusgeschützt und robust als Drop-In - Lösung von drölfzig Zahlungsdienstleistern und bedarf weder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Digitalzwang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Digitalzwang</span></a> noch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppZwang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AppZwang</span></a>, wenn die schon kein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bargeld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bargeld</span></a> akzeptieren wollen!</p><p>Bei Kleinbeträgen bis €25 wäre auch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CallPay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CallPay</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMSpayment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SMSpayment</span></a> problemlos machbar, was auch mit nem <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StupidPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhone</span></a> samt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prepaid</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> geht, ohne Registrierungs-Zwang!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tanuki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Tanuki</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agreement</em></p><p>Kinda reminds me why I work on <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> ...</p><p>Because we get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/clusterfuck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>clusterfuck</span></a>-based <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> these days and everyone who demands me to setup <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kubernetes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kubernetes</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Docker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Docker</span></a> to even run their Software deserves to be banned from ever touching anything more complex than a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StupidPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhone</span></a>"</em>!</p><p>'Just give me a fucking Tarball!'</p><ul><li><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://woof.group/@aphyr" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>aphyr</span></a></span> <a href="https://woof.group/@aphyr/112956089220526649" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">source</a></li></ul>
Frank Heijkamp<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@bitsoffreedom" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bitsoffreedom</span></a></span> Vroeger hadden we ook geen <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/smartPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>smartPhone</span></a> maar een <a href="https://mastodontech.de/tags/stupidPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>stupidPhone</span></a> en die domme dingen konden ruim twee weken werken op een enkele batterijlading. Ongeëvenaard gewoon!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jwildeboer</span></a></span> is that a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/StupidPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhone</span></a> with working rotary dial?</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://meow.social/@xoagray" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>xoagray</span></a></span> The only thing a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/dumbPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dumbPhone</span></a> does is provide an interface to the functions of the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SIMcard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIMcard</span></a> and network.</p><p>Those <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Iridium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Iridium</span></a> phones like the 9575 &amp; 9555 are <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/StupidPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StupidPhone</span></a>|s... </p><p>The original <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/RAZR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RAZR</span></a> from <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Motorola" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Motorola</span></a> was a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/FeaturePhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FeaturePhone</span></a>...</p>