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BakersRelay<p><a href="https://m.ai6yr.org/tags/TheGremlinZoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TheGremlinZoo</span></a> <a href="https://m.ai6yr.org/tags/Immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Immigration</span></a> <a href="https://m.ai6yr.org/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> </p><p>From AP.com: US claim of state secrets privilege in Kilmar Abrego Garcia case is 'inadequate,' judge says </p><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/kilmar-abrego-garcia-deportation-state-secrets-7a4d39f9a2013003b592efa94aa230ed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">apnews.com/article/kilmar-abre</span><span class="invisible">go-garcia-deportation-state-secrets-7a4d39f9a2013003b592efa94aa230ed</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/SCOTUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCOTUS</span></a> recites the facts in detail, making clear that the government was about to deport hundreds of people to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ElSalvador</span></a> without ANY real opportunity to file <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/HabeasCorpus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HabeasCorpus</span></a> lawsuits in challenge, a direct violation of their previous order - &amp; mentions <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/AlienEnemiesAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AlienEnemiesAct</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rendition</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/StateSponsoredAbduction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StateSponsoredAbduction</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Constitution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Constitution</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/CivilRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CivilRights</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/HumanRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HumanRights</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DueProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DueProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/SeparationOfPowers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SeparationOfPowers</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/AbuseOfPower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseOfPower</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Cooper points to Wilkinson line in 4th Circuit opinion that the government's claim that there's nothing more to be done to facilitate return is "shocking" to the conscience &amp; that indicates that there's <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misconduct</span></a></p><p>Wrapping up, <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a> thanks everyone.</p><p>She announces a 10 minute break before the parties go into a closed session to discuss some of the matters that remain under seal.</p><p>End of 🧵 </p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Guynn: Govt's claim is that he is a member of MS-13 &amp; he was removed on that basis, is basis of detention in <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ElSalvador</span></a> bc the Salvadoran govt believes he's MS-13 too</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>: Maybe we need to table this for sealed hearing.</p><p>Guynn agrees.</p><p>Xinis: Anything else to talk about in open court before we get into the nitty gritty in close session? </p><p>Cooper, for Abrego Garcia, interjects to raise issue about government <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misconduct</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Now we're on the subject of whether <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> is being held pursuant to an extradition treaty (because of govt's claim that he's being held under domestic custody).</p><p>Guynn says he thinks that info has been provided, he wasn't extradited.</p><p>Guynn: Basis of him being detained in <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ElSalvador</span></a> also doesn't go to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misconduct</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>: C'mon, you took over this case. You read that transcript.</p><p>There's a back-&amp;-forth between Guynn &amp; Xinis. Guynn eventually agrees to assume for the sake of argument that Garcia was unlawfully detained/removed. </p><p>But says even if that's assumed, there's still no showing of govt <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misconduct</span></a> on that basis</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a> interjects: No, no, no. During that first hearing the government admitted that Mr. Abrego Garcia was unlawfully detained. </p><p>There was an unlawful detention, she says.</p><p>There's a looooooooong, awkward pause. </p><p>Guynn says he can't speak to what happened at that hearing in which the govt admitted that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> was wrongfully removed, which led to the admin firing <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DOJ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DOJ</span></a> atty Erez Reuveni. </p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Guynn addresses the govt <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misconduct</span></a> exception. Says not clear from Cooper's discussion what misconduct at issue. Failure to provide info? Failure to comply w/court's order? Etc</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>: Or all of the above? [exactly]</p><p>Guynn starts talking about the circumstances of <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a>'s removal. </p><p>"That was an administrative error" that he was removed to a country he shouldn't have been removed to, but that doesn't mean there was misconduct.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Cooper: Only have ~30 docs that are relevant vs 500 that have been withheld based in part on <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a> </p><p>The final factor is harm to the govt, which I think is for the government to show. They haven't filed affidavits or explained why disclosure would harm process, etc</p><p>That's it from Cooper on deliberative process. </p><p>Guynn up to respond.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>After Cooper argues that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a> doesn't apply given <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misconduct</span></a> by the govt, he turns to another exception: the "compelling need" exception.</p><p>That squarely overrides the invocation of the privilege here, he tells Judge <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>.</p><p>Cooper: This discovery is relevant &amp; important. Govt hasn't pointed to alternative sources of info. There's been no substance produced of information that's key &amp; critical here.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Guynn: Think would need to brief that. But I don't want to concede that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/intent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>intent</span></a> is at issue.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a> asks attorney for <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> to come up &amp; address the "government misconduct" exception to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a>.</p><p>[Because the privilege is not absolute &amp; can be overcome by a showing of govt <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/misconduct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misconduct</span></a>]</p><p>Up for Abrego Garcia this time is Jonathan Cooper</p><p>Cooper: From the beginning this has been a case about govt misconduct</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>: Intent to facilitate, intent to comply w/my order.</p><p>Guynn: When you refer to <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/intent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>intent</span></a>, what are you referring to?</p><p>Xinis: Can give you cases I've been thinking about. There's a proposition that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a> doesn't really apply when intent is at issue </p><p>Gives hypo: re discrimination claim by fired employee. if decision making is privileged, can never get to the issue of wrongful termination.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Guynn: That's why there are so many privileged documents here that's why hard to ID document custodians, etc. </p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>: Almost impossible to determine from the log on what basis you're claiming attorney client privilege. Eg, if you have 18 people CC'ed on an email. without more info, I can't assess.<br>I don't believe the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a> is as broad in this case because the govt's intent is at issue.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Guynn: The govt obviously had a dispute over what facilitate means</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>: What's interesting about that is that you had to have the Fourth Circuit tell you that. "My decision wasn't good enough."</p><p>Guynn says there's more context to set the stage but he thinks that would need a sidebar.<br>There was question about what defendants had to do, should do, in response to court's order in this case. So lots of attorneys were involved.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Rossman: If I gave your honor what I have of meaningful <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/discovery" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>discovery</span></a>, it'd be nothing</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a> announces that she wants to move on to discussion of the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/DeliberativeProcess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeliberativeProcess</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/privilege" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privilege</span></a>. Wants to talk about the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> on that, then move the hearing under seal to discuss further.</p><p>Guynn is up first to discuss. </p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Rossman: Last thing I would mention is about the prospect of in camera review. <br>I am not at all suggesting the entirety of the privilege log should be made availble to the court. But we do think that your honor should look at some of these documents…</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Xinis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xinis</span></a>: the problem I'm having—not to beat a dead horse—is that I can't assess this based on the affidavit provided. Maybe at some point that will make its way to me, but that's where we are.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Rossman: And we're not aware of any cases in which something that isn't classified is a <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/StateSecret" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StateSecret</span></a>. It would be strange, <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Boasberg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Boasberg</span></a> recognized this in JGG case.</p><p>Rossman: Again, what's in this affidavit contrasts with other state secrets cases in which you can describe the danger — not wanting to reveal secret military technology, etc.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Rossman: It can't be that <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/SCOTUS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCOTUS</span></a> issued an order that's empty. </p><p>Rossman reads the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/SupremeCourt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SupremeCourt</span></a> order requiring release of <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> from custody &amp; treatment of his case as if he hadn't been removed...</p><p>That itself implies some extra-territorial steps, he says.</p><p>Rossman now addresses the <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Rubio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rubio</span></a> declaration. </p><p>Simply saying “national security” is insufficient, he says. </p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Rossman: But rather than us talk about that in a speculative way, the questions is what have you actually done? And they know the answer. They either have done things or haven't.</p><p>What they could do is make a list of the things they've done &amp; bring that to the Secretary of <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/State" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>State</span></a> who can then assess &amp; say ok that's ok to share with court, but that other part is not, etc. </p><p>But they haven't done that.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
Nonilex<p>Rossman: Important to underscore the context here. We're talking about a single person removed to another country. And it's very difficult to swallow from position of common sense that this information would endanger the diplomatic relations w/ <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/ElSalvador" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ElSalvador</span></a><br>We could pool our imaginations to come up w/potential or hypothetical things that could be <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/StateSecrets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StateSecrets</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://masto.ai/tags/KilmarAbregoGarcia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KilmarAbregoGarcia</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/immigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>immigration</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/law" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>law</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/judiciary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>judiciary</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/rendition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rendition</span></a></p>
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