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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@WinFuture" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@WinFuture</a> wer Dritthersteller-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernelhacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kernelhacks</a> bezahlt bzw. nicht den eingebauten.Mechanismen vertraut sollte das Betriebssystem.wechseln!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Kensan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Kensan</a> <a href="https://waldvogel.family/@marcel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@marcel</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/@adfichter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@adfichter</a> Das kommt hinzu...Ich persönlich bin ja dafür dass <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CCSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CCSS</a> eine strikte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Produkthaftung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Produkthaftung</a> befolgen müssen - inklusive <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Versicherung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Versicherung</a> für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Folgesch%C3%A4den" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Folgeschäden</a> und Schadensersatzansprüche...<ul><li>Bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FLOSS</a> würde ich dies nicht einsehen weil diese ja kostenlos und ohne Haftung angeboten wird - bei CCSS gibt es keinen rationalen Grund dies zu erlauben!</li></ul>Ohnehin gehört <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Govware</a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scareware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Scareware</a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CrowdStrike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CrowdStrike</a> und der ganze andere "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Antivirus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Antivirus</a>" - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Malware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Malware</a> verboten, weil alles was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Binaryblob" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Binaryblob</a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernelhacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kernelhacks</a> erzeugen ist Mist!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@0xabad1dea</a> which confirms my own point.<ul><li>All <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KernelLevelDrivers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KernelLevelDrivers</a> are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/malware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#malware</a> and should not exist to begin with.</li><li>There was never a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LegitimateReason" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LegitimateReason</a> to allow said <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernelhacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kernelhacks</a> to exist.</li><li>Noone should've allowed this <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/scareware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#scareware</a> to exist or signed it (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Microsoft</a>) nor used it and the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Govware</a> it was made for (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a>).</li><li>I sincerely hope they'll be made to face <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accountability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#accountability</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consequences" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#consequences</a> for this shitshow, and I mean not a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClassAction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ClassAction</a> aka. "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GetOutOfJailCheque" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GetOutOfJailCheque</a>" that is insultingly low.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Cappyjax" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Cappyjax</a> <a href="https://mastodon.radio/@WB2EEE" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@WB2EEE</a> <a href="https://zug.network/@Zugschlus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Zugschlus</a> <a href="https://donotsta.re/users/elly" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@elly</a> I disagree with <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Cappyjax/112821333101353573" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">your assessment</a> to some extent, as on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> there's not much of a tolerace or even acceptance of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/rootkits" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#rootkits</a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CorwdStrike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CorwdStrike</a> for all the right reasons!<ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scareware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Scareware</a> like that has no legitimate reason to exist and the only place I've seen that is on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> because people distrusting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WindowsDefender" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WindowsDefender</a> and thus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Microsoft</a> are unwilling to to what is evidently the correct solution and yeet Windows for good.</li></ul>Cuz it's not about <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fanboyism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fanboyism</a>, but a fact that most Windows - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sysadmins" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sysadmins</a> (or rather decisionmakers for that matter) seem to be high on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Copium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Copium</a> and refuse to take actual <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consequences" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#consequences</a> but accept the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Enshittification</a> as a fact of life when it's not...<ul><li>Or am I the only one who remembers the rightful backclash when <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ads</a> were shoved into <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ubuntu</a> whilst on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows11</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows10" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows10</a> people just seem to shrug their shoulders?</li></ul>It's just that this entire shitshow would not have happened on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> because here we don't have an entire ecosystem of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ValueRemoving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ValueRemoving</a> "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AntiVirus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AntiVirus</a>" bs being shoved on Desktops and Servers in the form of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Binaryblob" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Binaryblob</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernelhacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kernelhacks</a>!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mstdn.social/@nbloglinks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nbloglinks</a> <a href="https://social.skynetcloud.site/@jos1264" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@jos1264</a> <a href="https://social.bund.de/@bsi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bsi</a> generally you can't trust any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DigitalSnakeoil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DigitalSnakeoil</a> delers aka. 3rd Party <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Antivirus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Antivirus</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#macOS</a>!As both OSes are proprietary, said "Antivirus" are ugly <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BinaryBlob" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BinaryBlob</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernelhacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kernelhacks</a>!If you don't trust <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Microsoft</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apple</a>.respectably to maintain their OSes and keep them secure, then DON'T USE SAID OS!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.linux.pizza/@Szwendacz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Szwendacz</a> I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Antivirus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Antivirus</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Malware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Malware</a> protection should be the sole responsibility of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/maintainer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#maintainer</a> of said <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OS</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Distro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Distro</a>!And I'd happily pay for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/support" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#support</a> and have that in writing for more than just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/compliance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#compliance</a> reasons...That being said <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> already dominates (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> is just a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#toybox</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#musl</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> distro and for the vast majority of people - espechally in the global south, it is their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Desktop</a>!) and it "solved" the malware problem just by taking away 'the means to fuck up a system' from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TechIlliterate</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/users" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#users</a> - as any reasonable <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sysadmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sysadmin</a> should do anyway...<ul><li>Something that may not work at all on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#macOS</a> and espechally on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Windows</a> due to it not having permission managment and actual security in it's design!</li></ul>So yeah, 3rd party <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AV</a> may seem like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scareware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Scareware</a> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> (and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mailservers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mailservers</a> should at least <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClamAV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ClamAV</a> their inboxes) but on Windows they are absolutely pointless given than those are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BinaryBlob" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BinaryBlob</a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kernelhacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kernelhacks</a> (none of them got Sourcecode access for Windows!) that actually lessen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#security</a> of the System!<ul><li>I don't trust <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Microsoft</a> and thus I don't use Windows - period!</li></ul>

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