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patatas<p>So like, one thing I really appreciate about the <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.patatas.ca/tag/geminiprotocol" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GeminiProtocol</a> is that it’s intended to be finalized and then never changed. And it’s very nearly at that point.</p><p>I also appreciate the criticisms that it’s very limited in what it allows one to do. But this also seems like a positive feature in terms of non-capture:</p><p>The web, meanwhile, is a surveillance capitalist shopping mall.</p><p>The folks with the most say over the direction of ActivityPub seem to be fully in the pocket of Meta et al.</p><p>ATProto (putting aside the fact that Bluesky almost feels like a honeypot for leftists) is supposedly going to be transferred to a standards body, but again, as we see with ActivityPub, that’s also a path to capture.</p><p>So - is anyone talking about creating a protocol that’s less limited than Gemini but is also <em>intended</em> to stop evolving at a certain point? Or is that an unrealistic thing to expect due to its relative complexity? </p><p>In other words, is it fair to say that greater technical complexity demands constant evolution, making capture almost inevitable?</p>
pandorastalewiki<p><span>As of today, all articles in the new Pandora's Tale Wiki have been fully converted to text/gemini. <br><br>There are still a few more formatting changes I want to do before I can declare the new wiki better than the old one.<br><br>Notably, the website for the git repository does not actually render gemtext. Gemtext is very close to plain text, so the articles are still legible, but eventually I want to set things up so that you can actually view the articles rendered in either a web browser or a gemini browser.<br><br></span><a href="https://transgirl.cafe/tags/PandorasTaleWiki" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PandorasTaleWiki</a> <a href="https://transgirl.cafe/tags/PandorasTale" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PandorasTale</a> <a href="https://transgirl.cafe/tags/Wikiverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wikiverse</a> <a href="https://transgirl.cafe/tags/Geminispace" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Geminispace</a> <a href="https://transgirl.cafe/tags/Geminiprotocol" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Geminiprotocol</a> <a href="https://transgirl.cafe/tags/Gemtext" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gemtext</a> <a href="https://transgirl.cafe/tags/Git" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Git</a></p>
Adële<p>Pollux.casa hosting is back !<br>with a better internet connection via fibre.</p><p>gemini://pollux.casa/</p><p><a href="https://pollux.casa/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pollux.casa/</a></p><p><a href="https://social.pollux.casa/tags/smolnet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>smolnet</span></a> <a href="https://social.pollux.casa/tags/capsules" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>capsules</span></a> <a href="https://social.pollux.casa/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a></p>
Thorsten Zöller<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@hollie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hollie</span></a></span> This is really great and no small achievement, congrats! Wonderful site!</p><p>Next suggested step: create a Gemini capsule :flan_wink: </p><p><a href="https://exquisite.social/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a></p>
ralf tauscher :FreiburgSocial:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Sarahp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Sarahp</span></a></span> noooo, i liked xchat, the real xchat.org</p><p>after having <a href="https://freiburg.social/tags/gemini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gemini</span></a> moved into <a href="https://freiburg.social/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a> <br>now xchat is the next victim?</p>
ploum<p>I believe that <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/offpunk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>offpunk</span></a> could be a perfect browser for vision-impaired users. But I can’t judge it myself. If you use the Linux command-line with any vision accessibility tool, I would be really curious to hear your feedback about Offpunk.</p><p>Both about the browser and the website.</p><p><a href="https://offpunk.net/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">offpunk.net/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>I’m also curious to know if you use <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a>. </p><p>You can send your feedback on the mailing-list: ~lioploum/offpunk-users@lists.sr.ht</p>
roughnecks<p>New (b|gem)log: event-driven <a href="https://cyberplace.social/tags/wireguard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wireguard</span></a> connection to <a href="https://cyberplace.social/tags/homelab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>homelab</span></a>:<br><a href="https://blog.woodpeckersnest.space/2025/06/01/roughnecks/event-driven-wireguard-connection-to-home-lab/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">blog.woodpeckersnest.space/202</span><span class="invisible">5/06/01/roughnecks/event-driven-wireguard-connection-to-home-lab/</span></a><br><a href="gemini://woodpeckersnest.space/~roughnecks/archive/event-driven-wireguard-connection-to-home-lab.gmi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible"></span><span class="ellipsis">gemini://woodpeckersnest.space</span><span class="invisible">/~roughnecks/archive/event-driven-wireguard-connection-to-home-lab.gmi</span></a></p><p><a href="https://cyberplace.social/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> <a href="https://cyberplace.social/tags/automation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>automation</span></a> <a href="https://cyberplace.social/tags/selfhosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>selfhosting</span></a> <a href="https://cyberplace.social/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a></p>
Sam<p>I think my <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/GeminiProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeminiProtocol</span></a> Capsule is looking pretty good so far!</p>
Sam<p>Not sure if I want to start my blog fresh on the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/GeminiProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeminiProtocol</span></a> and convert it to HTML, or just convert the HTML I already have to .gmi, it should be light enough to translate seamlessly.</p>
ploum<p>Reducing the digital clutter of chats</p><p>How I managed to get back some mental space while embrassing <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and ditching <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/Whatsapp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Whatsapp</span></a></p><p><a href="https://ploum.net/2025-05-23-chats-digital-clutter.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ploum.net/2025-05-23-chats-dig</span><span class="invisible">ital-clutter.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a>: <a href="gemini://ploum.net/2025-05-23-chats-digital-clutter.gmi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible"></span><span class="ellipsis">gemini://ploum.net/2025-05-23-</span><span class="invisible">chats-digital-clutter.gmi</span></a></p>
Jan<p>What <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a> clients do you recommend to browse the <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/smolweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>smolweb</span></a> from an Android smartphone?<br>Currently, I am using Buran, but I am missing things like tabs.</p><p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/fedihelp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fedihelp</span></a></p>
ploum<p>I still do advertizing for my books ;-) (but those are under Creative Commons By-SA)</p><p>You would probably like to explore the <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a> and read <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/gemini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gemini</span></a> capsules !</p>
ploum<p>Il y a 4 ans : Vaccins et brevets, le véritable complot !</p><p><a href="https://ploum.net/vaccins-et-brevets-le-veritable-complot/index.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ploum.net/vaccins-et-brevets-l</span><span class="invisible">e-veritable-complot/index.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/retroploum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>retroploum</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/gemini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gemini</span></a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a> : <a href="gemini://ploum.net/vaccins-et-brevets-le-veritable-complot/index.gmi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible"></span><span class="ellipsis">gemini://ploum.net/vaccins-et-</span><span class="invisible">brevets-le-veritable-complot/index.gmi</span></a></p>
Les antibiotiques causent l’autisme, vaccinez-vous<blockquote><p>Pour apaiser ces phases anxieuses dues aux transports, une des solutions est de mettre son casque ou ses écouteurs, et d'écouter des audios ou de la musique, une méthode proche du Brain Flossing. “L'écoute contrebalance avec l'agressivité externe”, souligne le psychanalyste. <em>Une autre astuce est de limiter les notifications de son téléphone, pour éviter la fameuse sur-stimulation responsable de ces états de stress lors des trajets, et éviter une augmentation de la charge mentale.</em> Les exercices de respirations s'avèrent également efficaces. Christian Richomme conseille un exercice simple : “Pour faire descendre l'anxiété dans ces situations, on peut respirer en gonflant le ventre à l'inspiration, pour faire descendre l'air le plus bas possible, puis bloquer sa respiration quelques secondes, et enfin expirer doucement.” Il ajoute qu'“en faisant cet exercice de respiration, on profite d'une capacité pulmonaire plus importante et on fait baisser le rythme cardiaque”, une façon d'apaiser le corps, et donc l'esprit. De plus, en poussant l'air vers le bas, les muscles du diaphragme se détendent, après avoir été contractés par l'état de stress.</p></blockquote><p><a href="https://www.gqmagazine.fr/article/trajets-pour-aller-au-travail-metro-voiture-bus-sont-mauvais-pour-votre-sante-mentale-selon-les-experts?utm_source=firefox-newtab-fr-fr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.gqmagazine.fr/article/trajets-pour-aller-au-travail-metro-voiture-bus-sont-mauvais-pour-votre-sante-mentale-selon-les-experts?utm_source=firefox-newtab-fr-fr</a></p><p>(C'est moi qui souligne.)</p><p>Je n'ai pas ces problèmes avec postmarketOS. Je suis injoignable, le mois dernier un dysfonctionnement dans la bibliothèque Mesa empêchait de lancer des applications GTK, et donc la seule application graphique de téléphonie que je connaissais. Mais mon téléphone ne m'impose pas une connexion internet si je n'ai pas besoin de transférer des fichiers, et il ne m'envoie certainement pas de notifications car un quidam aurait liké une publication dans un groupe duquel je ne me serais pas encore désabonnée.</p> <p>Je me suis remise au protocole IRC avec <code>catgirl(1)</code> : c'est très simple, il suffit d'indiquer un nom de domaine, et optionnellement une liste de salons à rejoindre, un certificat (pour s'authentifier sans mot de passe), un nom d'utilisateurice IRC, un nom d'utilisateurice Unix, son vrai nom, ou/et que l'on veut enregistrer les échanges (pour pouvoir les retrouver plus tard).</p><p>On peut aussi tout mettre dans un fichier de configuration, et lancer la commande <code>catgirl $chemin_de_conf/libera-chat.conf</code>.</p><p>Ceci est un fichier de configuration valide :</p><pre><code>host = irc.libera.chat cert = $config_catgirl/libera-chat.conf nick = oceane </code></pre><p>et avec je mets mon téléphone sur un stand Miniso à 5&nbsp;€, je branche mon clavier méca, je fais ma vie, et je reviens ponctuellement pour répondre. C'est très apaisant, et grâce à ce protocole, en trois jours j'ai remis le wifi sur mon téléphone, j'ai réinstallé SXMO, et j'ai codé mes premières lignes d'Emacs-Lisp.</p><p>Vous pouvez installer <code>catgirl(1)</code> sous Windows avec le Windows Subsystem Layer, en installant Alpine Linux, en remplaçant <code>3.17</code> par <code>3.21</code> dans <code>/etc/apk/repos</code>, puis en tapant <code>sudo apk upgrade &amp;&amp; sudo apk install catgirl</code>.</p><p>Le protocole IRC est littéralement conçu pour poser des questions, y compris avec vos logiciels libres expérimentaux. Le protocole Gemini est conçu pour publier des documents en lecture seule, ce qui le rend particulièrement apaisant -- je le consulte parfois quand je n'arrive pas à dormir, et ça marche aussi bien qu'un simulateur de crépuscule, ou que d'autres produits de bobos vendus à Nature &amp; Découvertes mais oups, c'est public et gratuit.</p> <p>Je crois que Facebook identifie, puis cible personnellement des personnes manifestant en ligne leur amour propre de manière inappropriée. À cette échelle, c'est proprement inhumain, car on identifie généralement ces personnes pour ne pas les aider, afin de rester en capacité d'aimer autrui : ce faisant, nous devenons complices de la maltraitance numérique.</p><p>Une victime de maltraitance confondant communauté et audience et se créant un compte Instagram, Facebook, ou Twitter pour y trouver un groupe de support sans être en capacité d'y partager des ressources sera gaslightée par l'interface à considérer l'attention de centaines de personnes comme un droit. C'est une manifestation d'amour propre intrinsèquement légitime, mais rendue inappropriée par les décisions de développement prises. L'incapacité de partager des ressources contraignant la victime à opter pour de l'intimidation, elle deviendra un troll, ce qui accentuera son isolement et sa souffrance.</p> <p><a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/radioautiste" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RadioAutiste</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/actuallyautistic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActuallyAutistic</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/actuallyautisticfr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActuallyAutisticFR</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/accessibilit%C3%A9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Accessibilité</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/daronnie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Daronnie</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/m%C3%A9decinespr%C3%A9ventives" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MédecinesPréventives</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/linmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LinMo</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/natureetd%C3%A9couvertes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NatureEtDécouvertes</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/morph%C3%A9e" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Morphée</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Emacs</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/logicielslibres" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LogicielsLibres</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/irc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/gemini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gemini</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeminiProtocol</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Google</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/alphabetinc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AlphabetInc</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/bigtech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BigTech</span></a> <a href="https://gotosocial.social/tags/android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a></p>
λx.crime :neobot_pleading:<p>gemini blog post time!</p><p>today: a format it wants to use to log its travels</p><p>link: <a href="gemini://16af93.is.too-gay-for.work/~16af93/posts/2025-05-16-travel-log-format.gmi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible"></span><span class="ellipsis">gemini://16af93.is.too-gay-for</span><span class="invisible">.work/~16af93/posts/2025-05-16-travel-log-format.gmi</span></a></p><p><a href="https://wetdry.world/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a></p>
bacardi55<p>Sometime, I'm thinking we should have a planet style site for <a href="https://social.bacardi55.io/tags/smowel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>smowel</span></a> / <a href="https://social.bacardi55.io/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a> / <a href="https://social.bacardi55.io/tags/gopher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gopher</span></a> type of content^^<br>I could create and manage one, but I'm lazy to actually do the curation of links and feeds to do it.</p>
ploum<p>« L’IA, les LLMs, ce ne sont que ça : des générateurs de bits. »</p><p><a href="https://ploum.net/2025-05-12-pour-une-poignee-de-bits.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ploum.net/2025-05-12-pour-une-</span><span class="invisible">poignee-de-bits.html</span></a></p><p>version pour <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/gemini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gemini</span></a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geminiprotocol</span></a> : </p><p><a href="gemini://ploum.net/2025-05-12-pour-une-poignee-de-bits.gmi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible"></span><span class="ellipsis">gemini://ploum.net/2025-05-12-</span><span class="invisible">pour-une-poignee-de-bits.gmi</span></a></p>
River :therian:<p>I have a question about <a href="https://social.techtails.net/tags/gemtext" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gemtext</span></a>. It allows relative links but does not seem to elaborate. Do you think my assumptions are correct?<br><br>=&gt; foo.txt a file in the current directory<br>=&gt; bar/baz.txt file in "bar" folder<br>=&gt; ../baz/boo.txt if we're in a nested directory, we can reference a folder within parent directory<br>=&gt; / or just jump straight to the root<br><br>Given the <a href="https://social.techtails.net/tags/geminiprotocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeminiProtocol</span></a> spec says requests must carry absolute URIs, the clients are expected to handle all this complexity, aren't they?<br><br>Please boost, I'm so confused ^^"</p>
Jakub Klawiter :mastodon:<p>Ej fedisie… jest pewien challenge. Kto ma konto na bugzilla mozilla… bugzilli mozilli xD?</p><p>Jest taki ticket: <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1723172" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.</span><span class="invisible">cgi?id=1723172</span></a> co Wy na to, żeby na niego zagłosować?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gemini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gemini</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GeminiProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeminiProtocol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a></p>
Victoria (K8VSY) (she/her)<p>so, it looks like if I want to host my website on the <a href="https://mastodon.radio/tags/Gemini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gemini</span></a> protocol, I'll need to disable the DNS proxy thingy on Cloudflare</p><p>anyone else know of a way around this? without exposing the IP of the host, possibly? 🤔</p><p>if not, I might eventually disable the DNS proxy thing, but I'd prefer not to, heh</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.radio/tags/GeminiProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeminiProtocol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.radio/tags/Cloudflare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cloudflare</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.radio/tags/DNS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DNS</span></a></p>