El Duvelle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://neuromatch.social/@manisha" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>manisha</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://neuromatch.social/@amchagas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>amchagas</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://neuromatch.social/@jonny" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jonny</span></a></span> <br>thanks! And that sounds like a great idea! </p><p>I’ll try to make a list of all the <a href="https://neuromatch.social/tags/Ephys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ephys</span></a> techniques that I know of, for which some electronics knowledge would be useful, trying to view it from a completely electronics-naive person. <br>Note: this is for the purpose of what to cover in a future workshop, no need to answer here! Well except if you know about bubble testing ;)</p><p>These are going to be for tetrodes / probe recordings:</p><p><strong>Electrodes preparation:</strong></p><ul><li>what does it mean to stimulate with a <em>positive</em> or <em>negative</em> current</li><li>what is <em>impedance</em> (how does it compare to resistance) and why do we want it to be low, but not too low<br>-what is the solution that best approximates impedance of the brain (eg diluted saline, gold solution,…)<br></li><li>what happens exactly during <em>gold-plating</em> of the electrodes (or other types of plating)<br></li><li>what happens if you gold plate too much and get a <em>short</em>, why is it bad, how to fix it<br></li><li>why does the impedance of your wires usually increase with time after doing a clean cut<br></li><li>what happens during <em>bubble-testing</em> (some of this is still a mystery even to me): with the electrodes in a saline solution, you send a negative current between the drive pin corresponding to the electrode to test and the solution, if the electrode is properly connected, a small bubble will appear at the tip of the electrode. From experience, the characteristics of the bubble can give you information about the quality of the electrode cut as well as if the electrode is shorted with other electrode, maybe even about the impedance. So what mechanism creates this bubble exactly? Why does the measured impedance just after doing a bubble test might seem very low (sometimes)? Does this really help cleaning the tip of the electrodes? Can it negatively affect the electrode if done for too long or with too high a current? Should the strength of this stimulation current be adjusted depending on the wire diameter?<br></li><li>when you plate, is it expected that the plated particles will slowly detach with time? How to avoid this? (Either prior to after surgery)<br></li></ul><p><strong>Grounding</strong></p><ul><li>why do you need a ground in in-vivo recordings?<br></li><li>what is the difference between signals recorded with respect to the ground and “referenced” (ie with respect to another electrode), what is the point of doing both?<br></li><li>should the ground be connected to any point in the animal, should it be in the skull, should it be above dura, should it be touching the brain?<br></li><li>could you have two or more ground screws to maximize the changes of having a good animal ground?<br></li><li>why do you need to ground your recording system properly, why do the characteristics of that ground matter<br></li><li>why do you sometimes need to also ground your maze / environment, and how<br></li><li><em>ground loops</em> when do they happen, what are they, how to detect them, how to avoid them<br></li></ul><p><strong>Recordings</strong></p><ul><li>what tests to do in a newly-implanted animal to make sure that everything works as planned?</li><li>which of these tests can you do with a signal generator instead, what would be the characteristics of that signal so that it mimics brain signals</li><li>why do disconnected channels look the way they look (generally noisy instead of being flat)</li><li>how will the signal change depending on the impedance of the electrodes?</li></ul><p><strong>Electrolytic lesions</strong></p><ul><li>what happens when you do an electrolytic lesion (sending a small current between an implanted electrode and the animal ground to create lesions or gliosis in the brain around the electrode that will be visible when you stain the brain to indicate the position of the electrode)<br></li><li>how does the current amplitude and stimulation duration relate to the size of the lesion<br></li><li>how would the lesion change if you do a continuous stimulation vs alternating stimulation</li><li>which rules govern where the current “goes” for example if you do the lesion between an electrode and the animal ground but there is also an alternate (maybe lower resistance) route connecting these two points?</li></ul><p>Okay I’ll send these out before I loose my draft but might add some more later! Where these the kind of questions that you expected? Let me know if any need clarification or even schematics / photos</p>