Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.jacobian.org/@jacob" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jacob</span></a></span> <em>yes</em>, and <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenWashing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenWashing</span></a></em> is a real issue not just with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> as seen with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Redis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Redis</span></a> & others using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> as a literal <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicense" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicense</span></a> which are just <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SourceAvailable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SourceAvailable</span></a>"</em> instead of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a>, but actual <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/donations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>donations</span></a>.and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/contributions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>contributions</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Try to convince any C-level decisionmakers to donate even 1% of the equivalent of licensing the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CCSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CCSS</span></a> equivalents of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> deployed will get one laughed at, and suggesting 10% threatened woth getting fired.</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AskMeHowIKnow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AskMeHowIKnow</span></a>…</p>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kotaro.me/@kotaro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kotaro</span></a></span> gramted, all of tuhe <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Forks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Forks</span></a> that are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BSD</span></a>-licensed had way more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/effort" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>effort</span></a> put into them.</p><ul><li>I just think that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> is as bad as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tivolization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tivolization</span></a> in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/useability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>useability</span></a>.</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> is still worse than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a>, but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPL</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv3</span></a> are just completely disregarding the legal reality of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IP</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Licensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Licensing</span></a>.</p><ul><li>If they don't want to accept <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/competition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>competition</span></a>, they could've chosen <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@creativecommons" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>creativecommons</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CCBYNCSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CCBYNCSA</span></a> instead, but they did not! </li></ul><p>Needless to say if I were a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>developer</span></a> of it and had contributed under <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BSD</span></a> license I'd expect to either get my code removed entirely or the license to be kept the same.</p><ul><li>And now you know why I'll refuse to sign any <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ContributorLicenseAgreement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ContributorLicenseAgreement</span></a>"</em> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CLA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CLA</span></a>) <em>UNLESS</em> I get a paid, non - term-limited position as an enployee in return…</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastos.online/@Nicholasr_ITSulu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Nicholasr_ITSulu</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nixCraft</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agreement</em> and since there are so many stakeholders with opposing interests <em>and</em> a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> license, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GAFAMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAMs</span></a> can't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/enshittify" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>enshittify</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tivolize" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tivolize</span></a> it!</p><ul><li>And due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2only" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2only</span></a> eben a move to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> is not possible!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@xerxespersrex" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>xerxespersrex</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agreement</em>...</p><ul><li>Shit like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RSAL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RSAL</span></a> is IMHO even <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v72pNaincM" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">worse</a> than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SourceAvailable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SourceAvailable</span></a> as it's literally <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a>"</em>...</li></ul><p>At least most <em>source available</em> products like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tarsnap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tarsnap</span></a> are <a href="https://www.tarsnap.com/open-source.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">honest</a> that they <em>are not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a></em>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@anderseknert" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>anderseknert</span></a></span> Everyone who uses <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> or tries to infringe upon users' <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rights</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/grsecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>grsecurity</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedHad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RedHad</span></a> do should be banned from any professional developments and supply chains as part of the <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RiskAssessment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RiskAssessment</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RiskAvoidance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RiskAvoidance</span></a></em> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DueDiligence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DueDiligence</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Anything else in criminal neglect at this point...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>One can really see <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hZxo96x48A&t=4m15s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">this</a> is an older video, as it misses not only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/0BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>0BSD</span></a> between <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PublicDomain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PublicDomain</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MIT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MIT</span></a> but also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> right of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> in a tab that's right of it called <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssetDenial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssetDenial</span></a>"</em> or <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monopolistic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monopolistic</span></a>"</em> or just <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a>"</em> and a tab right of that for <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SourceAvailable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SourceAvailable</span></a>"</em> licensing, but I get ahead of myself...</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sarcasm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Sarcasm</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Licensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Licensing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Copyleft</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cipyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cipyright</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Copywrong" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Copywrong</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/rant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rant</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/vent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vent</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/venting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>venting</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@carlwgeorge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>carlwgeorge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@vermaden" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>vermaden</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@samurro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>samurro</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@tara" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tara</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://linuxmom.net/@vkc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>vkc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@BrodieOnLinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>BrodieOnLinux</span></a></span> TBH, being just marginally better than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Oracle</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> is the only reason I'd use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> over <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Solaris</span></a> or god forbid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a>, tho I'm glad <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> isn't controlled entirely by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedHat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RedHat</span></a> and that I can use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSUSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSUSE</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a> and their parent companies didn't gave me or my (fmr.) clients/employers the finger... </p><p>But hey, go keep <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@carlwgeorge/113066753513420985" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">lying to yourself</a> with the <em>corporate propaganda</em> of <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@carlwgeorge/113066740483764069" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">open source sustainability</a> because if you think that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> needs to be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/profitable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>profitable</span></a> you haven't understood why people choose <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Copyleft</span></a> licenses like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2</span></a> and espechally <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv3</span></a> and how Red Hat is providing arguments to push for <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a>"</em> a la <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a>.</p><p>Your <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@carlwgeorge/113066777245682297" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dismissals</a> of criticism are childish and your way to flood my notifications with bs replies just to then flee the discussion like a coward is a really bad way to <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@carlwgeorge/113066796196131707" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pull rank</a>.</p><ul><li>This behaviour reminds me of <em>"channers"</em> that refexively reply <em>"You have an anime pfp, your opinion doesn't matter!"</em> as if that's a way to engage with potential clients!</li></ul><p>Just because I'm not a CxO doesn't mean I know how to (dis-)recommend suppliers and underpin that with past experiences, as clients/employers trust in my judgement.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>marcan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> Either way, like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> I did the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> experiment and those projects didn't see even remotely as much resonance or contribution as when I embraced <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/0BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>0BSD</span></a> as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PermissiveLicense" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PermissiveLicense</span></a> (cuz <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PublicDomain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PublicDomain</span></a> legally doesn't exist in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a>: One cannot renounce <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Authorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Authorship</span></a> for legal reasons, otherwise <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HateSpeech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HateSpeech</span></a> would be unprosecute-able, so only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Copyright" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Copyright</span></a> lapses 70 years post-mortem of the Authors)...</p><ul><li>I think <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a>"</em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> is inherently unfree and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> is just an act of <em>committing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssetDenial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssetDenial</span></a></em> which doesn't work.</li></ul><p>TBH, the only way to preven <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GAFAMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAMs</span></a> <a href="https://youtu.be/ZzI9JE0i6Lc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like Amazon</a> from leeching <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> is to either make <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CCSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CCSS</span></a> or offer the <em>superior [<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SaaS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SaaS</span></a>] solution</em> by ticking boxes <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/aws" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aws</span></a> can't ( i.e. due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> compliance) or inherently won't hecause it's antithetical to their business ( i.e. [airgapped] <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> & Support/Management Options for self-hosted systems)...</p><ul><li> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/healthcare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>healthcare</span></a>-IT based startups in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> pay Companies like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telekom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telekom</span></a> to host their medical data because unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Amazon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Amazon</span></a> they can and will evidently enshure their U.S. division can't leak that data to U.S. govt. agencies and if one butters them with enough money, they'll likely sign the hardest NDAs one can throw at them...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wetdry.world/@ohanamatsumae" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ohanamatsumae</span></a></span> ain't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MongoDB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MongoDB</span></a> those <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SaaS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SaaS</span></a>-only guys that basically use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> as per <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a>? </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MongoDB" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MongoDB</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Public_License#Licensed_software" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_S</span><span class="invisible">ide_Public_License#Licensed_software</span></a></p><p>To me that disqualifies them for any serious useage!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>So why should this be <em>my</em> problem nor <em>why</em> should I give a wet fuck about that?<br><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Elucidating/112143644345820192" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.social/@Elucidating/1</span><span class="invisible">12143644345820192</span></a></p><p>" <em>Their Account = Their Choices!</em> "</p><p>I refuse to even try to appease or appeal to people at all because they'll just make up shit if they want to...</p><p>You outed yourself with bad takes defending <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> towards them and now you're salty about getting shown the door...<br>What did you expect?</p><p>Also added to it is the extra cowardly <em>reply & block</em> combo...</p><p>Seriously, get your priorities straight, m8...</p><p>But if there's one thing that gets my blood <em>boiling</em> is shouting at me for things I didn't do!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Elucidating" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Elucidating</span></a></span> that's still <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a>. </p><p>Compared to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span> which when I asked them via eMail [years ago] about <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/preinstalling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>preinstalling</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a> went like: </p><p>'Shure you can do that and sell the systems and provide commercial support as an MSP. Just make shure you don't claim to be affiliated or endorsed by us and follow our trademark guidelines.' </p><p>And I'm shure if I were in the business of offering <em>managed <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> Servers</em> for customers, I'm shure <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span> wouldn't mind that as long as either stick to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a>'d version or appropriately license that for customers and not claim to be <em>endorsed or affiliated with Zulip</em>....</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Elucidating" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Elucidating</span></a></span> the fact that you use the words <em>steal</em> ad <em>starve</em> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Elucidating/112141671100060972" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">unsarcastically</a> speaks volumes in regards of how little you seem to understand what <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> is and what the idea behind is. </p><p>Sorry to break it to you, but maybe then <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> isn't what you want tho, because that "risk" is inherently part of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OSS</span></a>... </p><p>You <em>can try</em> to beat <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GAFAMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAMs</span></a> into working with you, or you can <em>incentivize</em> contributions...</p><p>OFC for-profit companies will always churn the numbers and choose what's cheapest for them...</p><p>What gets my blood <em>boiling</em> here is that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Redis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Redis</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MongoDB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MongoDB</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Elastic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Elastic</span></a> <em>chose</em> to switch to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> as a form of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CollectivePunishment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollectivePunishment</span></a> because they failed to attract <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/donations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>donations</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/contributions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>contributions</span></a> and / or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/customers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>customers</span></a>, which means either their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/products" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>products</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/services" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>services</span></a> were bad or they didn't bring anything to the table worth spending money for.</p><p>Again: You can't <em>force</em> people and companies to actually <em>invest</em> personnel hours and/or money into it - either you attract contributors or not.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://groupe-tazor.com/@Yuki" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Yuki</span></a></span> I sincerely hope everyone's gonna fork <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Redis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Redis</span></a> before they changed to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> with the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> which is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NonFree" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NonFree</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicense" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicense</span></a>. </p><p>This is worse than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Copyleft</span></a> but just blatant <em>Asset Denial</em> because *"We WaNt AmAzOn To PaY uS!" kinda bs...</p><p>If you want to make money with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a>, provide some good product and make it attractive to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/donate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>donate</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/buy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>buy</span></a> some support.</p><p>As a matter of fact, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> did try to <em>crowbar</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2</span></a> [or rather started it]¹ with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BusyBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BusyBox</span></a> and that failed miserably, because now everyone knows BusyBox as the litigatious² folks that one should just not use code from.</p><p>There's a reason I chose <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/0BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>0BSD</span></a> ³ for <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> and it's because I most of the work I do is build and repackage <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>musl</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> and I want people to use it as a <em>friendly licensed</em> foundation for their <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IoT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IoT</span></a></em> and <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/embedded" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>embedded</span></a></em> projects down the line.</p><p>And that means that I'll also accept contributions on the same license and not expect devs to sign away code under worse terms so I can turn it into <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UnfreeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UnfreeSoftware</span></a> the way Redis and others did...</p><p>¹ <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&t=1607s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3</span><span class="invisible">g&t=1607s</span></a><br>² <a href="https://www.busybox.net/license.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">busybox.net/license.html</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br>³ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#0-clause_license_(%22BSD_Zero_Clause_License%22)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_lice</span><span class="invisible">nses#0-clause_license_(%22BSD_Zero_Clause_License%22)</span></a><br>⁴ <a href="https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/LICENSE.md" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob</span><span class="invisible">/main/LICENSE.md</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@msw" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>msw</span></a></span> Basically they tool a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> and changed the license to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a>! </p><p>Shit like this is why I'll never sign-away my right to my code and demand it to be released under the same terms the project was when I committed to it in perpetuality unless they were to yeet my code - which everyone can, git allows for selectively undoing code committed by a certain user...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> yeah...</p><p>Worse is only <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a> like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> or <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> at which point one might just choose some <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/commercial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>commercial</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SourceAvailable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SourceAvailable</span></a> solution (like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Tarsnap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tarsnap</span></a> is) instead...</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv3</span></a> is mostly <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Stallmanism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Stallmanism</span></a> and a complete disregard to practicality and the fact that <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/CCSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CCSS</span></a> exists!</p><p>I'd not be surprised if <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GPLv4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv4</span></a> extends <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Copyleft</span></a> upon all forms of output and input as well as sentencing violators to sponsor/contribute to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GnuHurd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GnuHurd</span></a> as an "indulgence trade"...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedi.tyil.nl/@tyil" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tyil</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://djsumdog.com/users/djsumdog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>djsumdog</span></a></span> depends...</p><p>One may want to use a permissive license like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BSD</span></a> or <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/APL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>APL</span></a> because using i.e. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/GPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv3</span></a> doesn't work for them or their project...</p><p>And stuff like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> is basically "<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a>" which I think is legally even more questionable than <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NotLegalAdvice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NotLegalAdvice</span></a> OFC...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mxmehl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mxmehl</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.matrix.org/@element" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>element</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://meshed.cloud/@webmink" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>webmink</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.matrix.org/@matrix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>matrix</span></a></span> so basically they do go with an "<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AssholeLicensing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AssholeLicensing</span></a>" model and I dovexpect them to further worsen from <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> just as a means to give everyone a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MiddleFinger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MiddleFinger</span></a> who may want to offer commercial <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/hosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hosting</span></a> - even if it's done under terms <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Element" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Element</span></a> can't comply with if they even wanted to.</p><p>And I doubt that they'll not go with an <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/OpenCore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenCore</span></a> solution like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Mattermost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mattermost</span></a> does.</p><p>So I'm glad I stuck with <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> & <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> instead since those are <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a>...</p>
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