Shout out millennials for being the generation that is not veering right as they age.
@luckytran zoomer erasure!
@gemini6ice @luckytran Zoomers have only been voting for a few years. It'd be hard to establish a trend with only part of the cohort and maybe two elections under their collective belt.
@TranshumanBlues @gemini6ice @luckytran Zoomers who voted in the recent election seemed rather attracted to fascism
@MisuseCase @TranshumanBlues @gemini6ice @luckytran Gen Z speaking. this is the first election that many of us are voting in (including myself!) and many of us were too young to even have strong feelings about the first Trump presidency.
I don't blame anyone for not being tremendously politically involved (I wasn't in 16 nor 20!) because many of us have bigger concerns and generally trust that no matter who our leaders are, ... (1/)
@MisuseCase @TranshumanBlues @gemini6ice @luckytran ...they'll at least be sane and level-headed individuals. Trump challenged that assumption, and fed into many of the feelings of discontent that first-time voters w/o a fear of the fragility of democracy had.
and once you make up your mind, one way or the other, it's hard to change. any evidence the other way, even if it is totally impartial, feels like an attack on your character. (2/)
@MisuseCase @TranshumanBlues @gemini6ice @luckytran tl;dr blame the shepherds, not the sheep
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@Eunakria @TranshumanBlues @gemini6ice @luckytran I know it’s definitely not all Gen Z or even a majority of Gen Z, but quite a lot of Gen Z men.
Although like, it’s just been quite a lot of men in general.
@luckytran too many "once in a lifetime" recessions for any of us to own any property. Not many of us were able to get to the essential "got mine" part of life in order to become complacent and more right leaning
@ExperimentV @luckytran I don't question your experience, but that's exactly what the Trump voters are saying too. "Taxes, inflation, economy" etc.
@mrkeen @luckytran I didn't talk about my experience. Trump voters simply do not understand "taxes, inflation, economy, etc." so I don't know what you're trying to insinuate here by comparing me to them.
@ExperimentV @mrkeen @luckytran nobody's insinuating anything. what john meant was that your argument is not the distinguishing factor, just like dem and rep voters both drink water. it must be something else.
@lritter @mrkeen @luckytran I disagree. The determining factor was exactly what I laid out in my previous post. If you want liberals to become more right wing, who cares about their property, and keeping "riff raff" away from their safe neighborhoods, then they will need property to take care of in the first place, which I have just pointed out, not many millennials have.
@ExperimentV @mrkeen @luckytran you're not wrong. it's a notable distinction.
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Came here to say this. I'd be a lot happier with the establishment if it had literally ever benefitted me.
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@luckytran FUCK YEAH!
Class consciousness will do that
@luckytran when facebook started to get really big is when I realized that X have become Jr Boomers. All my old school friends took a hard right turn
@cobweb @luckytran
More and more, I've come to the conclusion that Gen X doesn't have a solid identity. Half are basically young boomers and the other half are just millennials whose joints hurt more.
I know plenty who have taken the right turn, but most of my oldest friends keep going further left as the world fractures around us.
@TheGreatLlama @cobweb @luckytran "millennials whose joints hurt more" is pretty much exactly where i'd put myself, yes
@millihertz @cobweb @luckytran
I thought that might be a relatable condition.
@TheGreatLlama @millihertz @cobweb @luckytran Yeah, I've become if anything more left as I age, I tend to relate more to millennials than to most fellow GenX, except for those that also relate more to millenials. And my joints are starting to hurt.
@TheGreatLlama @cobweb @luckytran as a young boomer: Just search for " the forgotten generation".
Btw.:
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxSkOcgcKdx16m_nxyJt-h_nvuy3RjlAZG?si=Ut-g_ksN43COy9dR
@goedelchen @cobweb @luckytran
A while back, someone on here (it may have been @babe, but I can't remember for sure) did a survey; something like, "which is the most ignored generation?" There was no category for Gen X. Pretty good joke.
@luckytran I'd be interested to see this broken down more... to decade of birth maybe. I suspect it would just be an even closer correlation/smoother curve though
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We're doing our damnedest.
@luckytran cool, tell them they need to show up to vote if they don't want the worst possible outcome because they're clearly missing a step
@luckytran We said, "fuck those people." and stuck with it, now into our 40s.
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A heartfelt FU to my fellow GenX that know better because we covered Orwell and the witnessed the Cold War.
@NMBA @luckytran THIS! I'm so fucking disappointed with my generation. We also had punk rock, and as the Dead Kennedys said, “Punk ain’t no religious cult; punk means thinking for yourself.’”
@patternflux @luckytran
Yep, DK and many others literally screaming about nazis and fascism and corporatism
@patternflux @NMBA @luckytran We slackers slacked too much to work on the improvement and resilience of our communities, while the fascists infected everything.
Learn from us, future generations! Complacency is death.
(I hope Ronald Reagan has been and continues to be reborn as a fish suffocating in polluted waters for hundreds of years.)
@luckytran it's because we have no money
@luckytran what explains this?
@Jay @luckytran probably a few things at play here, but wealth is likely a major factor. wealth predicts political attitudes to a substantial degree, as the wealthy want to preserve their wealth and see others as a threat to their wealth and privilege and wealth also increases life expectancy by a lot. Millennials had way less chances to accumulate wealth compared to previous generations.
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Ashamed of my peers, the boomers.
I move ever leftwards.
@whaleknives @markhburton @luckytran yes, although we are the smallest generation of the four. Still, I’d like to punch a lot of my fellow Xers.
@WideEyedCurious @whaleknives @markhburton @luckytran
Same. WTH I don’t get it.
@whaleknives @luckytran
No, I'm older
@whaleknives @markhburton @luckytran Well, the internet happened
@luckytran it is extremely frustrating that the article basically ends with treating this like a problem to be solved ("how do we 'fix' this to make them become more conservative?"), and extremely depressing that the proposed "fix" is "pay them off by having them exchange their principles for security". Though i guess neither should be surprising given the source.
https://www.ft.com/content/c361e372-769e-45cd-a063-f5c0a7767cf4
These people "turn more conservative with age" because they got ahead just enough to be a little bit comfortable, but still precarious enough that they still see things as a zero sum game, feel threatened by others, and pull up the ladder behind them.
We could as a society realize "hey, if people don't feel precarious all the time, we're all better off as a whole!"
Instead, these twerps decree "hmm...we don't have enough people right on the knife edge of 'comfortable but precarious' to preserve the status quo; let's give a few more people just enough of that 'comfort ladder' for them to start feeling threatened and pull up that baby ladder behind them".
@luckytran those kids never lived through Reagan, both Bushes or a recession, but I reckon that the first ten years of the #MAGAmerikkka dictatorship will get them caught up.
I'm not seeing any good reason to continue using my US passport, so I'll be switching to my UK one. And because my mother is still a Jamaican citizen I can also apply for and receive a Jamaican passport.
@luckytran pretty obvious, really, since they are up to their eyes in debt and can't afford a mortgage.
The first generation that will be worse off than the one before.
@luckytran I kinda feel that for genx in the US it kind of erases how a lot of left-leaning cohort died off in the 1980s
@luckytran Apparently I am a millennial despite being born a quarter century to soon.
@luckytran I'll use this as further evidence for my daughter that I'm a five year early millennial, and not gen x.
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I am a boomer and not growing more conservative as I age. I can't speak for everyone in my generation, but the same is true of most of the boomers I know.
@luckytran Embarrassed (for myself and contemporaries) that Gen X seems to be giving in and following the arsehole curve with sudden enthusiasm. WTF happened there?
@crypticinquiry @luckytran boomers started dying and leaving property?
@millihertz @luckytran Hmmm, maybe. Happened to me and I didn't automatically head right. Although I have two millennial sons and so, seeing the shit they have to face, I have become increasingly left-wing and bolshie (in every way!)
@crypticinquiry @luckytran also, you're a person, not a demographic ;-)
@millihertz @luckytran Yes. And I've always been a deliberately contrarian sod by design. You make a very valid point!
@luckytran yet. gen X looked like they'd follow that trajectory until they were 40 too.
then half of them started inheriting property...
@luckytran Well, I’m a boomer and I continue to go further and further left as I get older.
@luckytran Elder Gen X are losing the plot, of course, but I'm just happy to see an infographic that acknowledges we exist.
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I think this is a function of how each successive generation has been increasingly fucked by neoliberalism.