Imagine if instead of making COVID isolation guidelines as weak as the flu...
We approved combo rapid tests like this and made them free and available for everyone...
So that people could tell how long they need to isolate based on science and not feelings, whatever the pathogen.
@luckytran It's so incredible that the Delta Airlines 5-day isolation proposal actually included a negative test to exit isolation. But the CDC dropped that part most likely because there was a shortage of rapid tests around that time. They easily could add a negative test to exit isolation now. I still can't get over the fact that if you are asymptomatic you do not have to do *anything.*. No one-day isolation. No masking for 5 days. I've read and re-read the guidelines and there's zip.
@luckytran Assuming all of those tests are done with a single nasal swab, what would the sensitivity be like?
@luckytran ... I want this, I want as many of these as I currently have COVID tests in my bathroom drawer.
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You've been elected to Parliament
(monkeypox, I think)
@siderea Mycoplasma pneumonia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycoplasma_pneumonia
Which I learned by seeing a test card like that at a clinic here in Minnesota that happens to use them.
But, per @luckytran 's point, they are not widely available for individual use here.
@luckytran this would make far too much sense
Dude the meta demon actually put you on my radar today and now I find you with the cool kids of the #fediverse
Love the idea of this test
@luckytran This would be fantastic. I always wonder when I read news articles about the spread of flu -- how do they know, where do those numbers come from? I have no idea whether I've ever had an actual flu; it's not like there's any easy way to find out.
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Tests like these aren't even that hard to make... which makes it all the more frustrating we don't have smth like this.
@luckytran Does this combination test exist in the U.S.?
@luckytran This is great if you dine at an establishment that gives waitstaff paid time off (with tips) to protect your life.
@LuckyTurtle A place where workers require tips to survive because they're not getting a proper salary isn't likely to offer proper sick leave either.
@luckytran i was in oslo recently, and they have the 3way version of this test, so i took a dozen home
@luckytran Its a graphic equaliser of disease :p
@luckytran cool - down they use the same buffer solution (and swap procedure)? I always wondered what that buffer stuff was.
@luckytran It'd be really nice to know what you're sick with. Even just to know so you can avoid spreading it to others.
Knowledge is half the battle.
@luckytran Good idea if explicit, easily understandable guidance is included.
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So let me get this straight …
5, Five, count ‘em, FIVE
Q-Tips up my nose ?!?
Can’t we do this with ONE sample?
@YetAnotherGeekGuy @luckytran I wouldn't expect you'd have to take five samples - probably you'd get a slightly bigger vial and take the sample for a few seconds longer. Then you'd mix the sample in and put drops from the same vial into all the sample cups.
The difference would be in the test strips, not the solution.
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I have a test kit that looks similar but only tests for flu (A and B), RSV, and Covid. It has one swab and one vial of buffer solution. There is enough solution to drip into all three test wells (that little part labeled "S" in the picture). So, exactly as Robotistry described.
@luckytran the engineer in me is wondering if you could make that test radial like a clock, with only one sample deposit area in the middle. Would be cumbersome and bigger than necessary probably.
@cibyr Abolishing the State would fix this
@luckytran, sort of nice, but I wonder what would sea turtles say about it and if we are not exaggerating importance of our speckle of dusts in the Universe. Maybe we could just stay at home when we don't feel that well and not produce things just because we can.
@ttrasuns I think it's important to know which unnecessary disease we have contacted, because they have different things you need to do about them.
@mu, it depends if the person is is vulnerable. For most viruses and "I don't feel well today" the best thing is to lay down and rest for a few days without much medicine if any. If it is a problem to do so, then the solution is political/economical and not really a medical one. Of course, it is different for people who are especially vulnerable or in close contact with such person, they should take tests if it is medically significant to do so.
@ttrasuns this virus has killed a lot of kids, and there are a lot of people who were perfectly healthy before getting Covid who are dead or have had their lives ruined by long Covid.
Check out what happened to physics girl, perfectly healthy person in her twenties that now spends most of her time in bed.
@mu, the last time I heard there was not drug that would heal Covid. The best we have is vaccination. And then, if a person gets ill, it is up to the individual immune system and hospitalization if necessary. I hate comparing Covid to other viruses and diseases, but people die from flu as well — all we can do is to lessen the spread all viruses.
And — testing everything creates other health and environmental problems. Some of which created Covid in the first place.
@luckytran @ttrasuns
Or … maybe we could quit victim blaming.
If you have a problem with plastics, take it out on the plastics industry and make them fix their problem. Say, financially responsible to reclaim every gram they ship?
(Besides, this is certainly LESS plastic than 5 separate tests.) And a radial design would be even less.)
10 points for style … minus several million for good thinking .
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I'm starting to agree, especially about focusing more on putting some financial burden on the whole industry. I wasn't really hating the idea about 5-in-1 one, but the idea of availability as I saw it as excessive (in times of relative piece) and putting working people on needles. I would like people to feel free to rest for whatever health reasons, to be okay to deliver packages few days later and so on.
@luckytran Are those something they actually sell somewhere? This would have been super nice to have last time we got sick. We suspect it was RSV but just confirmed through many tests it very much wasn't covid or the flu, was during an RSV outbreak, and had RSV-like symptoms. Having something like this to put the nail in the coffin and know earlier would have been nice.
@luckytran@med-mastodon.com imagine full comboing the multitest
@luckytran if you got any two dashes you stay at home and isolate. Should be the standard procedure
@luckytran do you know anywhere we can buy these in bulk imported to the uk or able send us a bunch
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I hope I'm Cegative, not Tositive for COVID
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And whatever RSV, Adeno and MP are