How long are you contagious with COVID-19?
Here's what the science says: Most people are infectious for ~10 days
~80% of people test positive for 5 days after symptom onset
Only ~30% of people who test positive have a fever
Presence of symptoms is an unreliable indicator of infectiousness
Individuals can be infectious before the onset of symptoms
Asymptomatic cases represent around 20 to 40% of all infections
The best way to tell when you are not infectious anymore is to have consecutive negative tests for COVID. And if you are unable to stay home the entire time, it's critical to wear an N95 mask to prevent spreading the virus to others.
Do you @luckytran know what these scientists say about survival rate of CoVid-19 vaccines?
@gfkdsgn @luckytran Staggeringly high. So preposterously high.
70% of the planet or 5.6 billion people have received COVID vaccination. Even if a million people died from the vaccine (an unconscionable horror at least one if not two orders of magnitude too high an estimation) that would mean your chance of survival after vaccination is still 99.98%.
So you @municipaladhesives know better than those scientists, don't you?
@gfkdsgn I mean, I know what the data says... Why don't you enlighten me with how you think 5.6 billion vaccinated people fared with the vaccine they received?
Most likely you @municipaladhesives still think that a negative PCR test has an important meaning, don't you?
Maybe you won't appreciate what it's inventor had to say about the "official covid test"...
https://youtu.be/ukxneT_4qwc
This is the guy who believed in astrology and said he had an encounter with an extraterrestrial in the form of a fluorescent raccoon.
He was a denialist re: human involvement in climate change and ozone layer depletion, and he also questioned the scientific validity of the link between HIV and AIDS, despite never having done any scientific research on either subject.
Please fuck off with this bullshit.
@RD4Anarchy @municipaladhesives @gfkdsgn
Wikipedia says it was a talking fluorescent raccoon that *might* have been an extraterrestrial. The man is a scientist and required further data before he could reach a conclusion.
@HeavenlyPossum @RD4Anarchy @municipaladhesives
If so, and taking in consideration that this person, that you try to portrait as a mad man, I wonder why you're defending the credibility of his invention so hard? Pls, explain if you can
@gfkdsgn @RD4Anarchy @municipaladhesives
I have never spoken to you before in my life and have no idea what you’re talking about.
@HeavenlyPossum
Feel free to keep it like that. Seems like someone added you into this conversation.
@gfkdsgn For those onlookers who shouldn't have to waste their time with this video:
Nothing of substance stated, with the exception of a moment at 3:27 where the panel facilitator replied to the featured person's rambling, "So even if you believe in HIV..." giving vital context for this conversation that this is not among clinicians or people who have any interest in reality.
Why so authoritarian @municipaladhesives? Shouldn't your "onlookers" be able to decide for the self what to watch. "Public cries" to ignore the source and listen to your interpretation don't let you appear less opportunistic or less (anti-)fascist.
Do you support Zionism as well?
Since you @municipaladhesives know what the data is saying, you are the first among mentioned scientists publishing long-term stats, aren't you?
Somehow your formular is more like basic math and your approximation "Even if a million people died" isn't based on anything else than your imagination, isn't it?
How comes that an anarcho-hipster has no concerns about the story that was propagated the most by BIG PR on MSM for BIG PHARMA?
@gfkdsgn @municipaladhesives the Covid vaccine works. I have followed all precautions and have never gotten Covid. I still wear a mask. I’ve had all my boosters I’m still alive. I’m not in the hospital, I’m not on a respirator. My children can come see me. I can go shopping with mask. My husband has not had it either. We are the vulnerable population that you don’t give a fuck about and we worked hard to stay away from people like you. #CovidKills #GetVaxed #MaskUp
@Beachbum
There is no question that it works. The questions are how, in the interest of who, quit bono and who founded gain of function studies in China and Ukraine in the first place.
Once, you might be ashamed about your complicity, like krauts after WW2, but that wisdom comes only with less ignorance. Hope 4U you'll can outran your contiuesness to save your own comfort zone in dangerous times like these.
@municipaladhesives @Beachbum
That's the best source to take any kind of numbers from for all worshippers in the church of science. TY ROFL
The irony was intended, wasn't it?
@municipaladhesives @Beachbum
Nevermind, you aren't alone. They all are running at one point like you by blocking. That's what cowards do when they ran out of bull shitty arguments.
TY the pleasure was all mine.
@gfkdsgn Yes, the "basic math" is arithmetic, thank you for noticing! Basic math is the foundation of epidemiology, and you too can perform the calculations you asked a stranger on the internet for. What you asked for was survival rate, which I roughly approximated as the inverse of the case fatality rate of COVID vaccination.
Vaccine mortality at scale *has to be* a product of the imagination because of the infinitesimally small number of vaccine-related deaths. I chose to make my point with an over-exaggeration and fallacy that favored a large amount of them because even if we account for a huge number of deaths, the COVID-19 vaccine is still overwhelmingly safe, and has incidentally proven to be massively effective.
If you @municipaladhesives identify as an anarchist (not as a capitalism supporting sell out of it's ideas), how comes that you have NO doubts about the official story that was propagated on MSM for years?
So I wonder if you are seriously an anarchist, part of controlled opposition, or deep inside a capitalist con man undercover.
@luckytran Do you have any information on how useful rapid tests still are? Here (in Germany) PCR testing isn’t widely available anymore (unless you pay out of pocket), but I keep hearing doctors say that the rapid tests aren’t working reliably anymore with the new variants.
@luckytran And even RATs aren't the best.
When our kid brought it home and gave it to the whole family, we stayed home until we were negative via RT-LAMP. Which took quite a few days after being negative on a RAT.
But negative on RAT (ideally 2x in a row) is a bare minimum.
@azonenberg @luckytran if you’ve had COVID multiple negative RAT tests work quite well to indicate viral load is now low enough to not be infectious. Of course the RATs have to be used correctly and if Paxlovid is involved the testing period needs to be extended to account for possible rebound.
@luckytran with up 40% of cases being asymptomatic, we need to do more than just stay at home when we feel sick. #cleanair #wearamask
@luckytran not to mention all those people who are wandering around being all pre-symptomatic and contagious.
@luckytran And don’t forget about the small number of people who test positive on day 13, after 4 days of negative, they are also contagious. Rebound: linking to a simple article. https://thosenerdygirls.org/what-is-covid-rebound/
@luckytran
I tested positive for 26 days. I gave it to two family members before symptoms prompted testing. Only had runny nose. Fever only lasted an hour. Cough about 10 days. But I stayed quarantined until 3 sequential days neg. These guidelines are absurd.
@luckytran
How do you even know you have it (or anything) if you feel fine?
@luckytran fucking nightmare virus
@luckytran @lisamelton the CDC recommends coughing on people to test if you are infectious, if they die or get violently ill, then the answer was yes.
@luckytran you might like the trending hashtag #CDCSays
Contagious periods