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@maggiemaybe @eeyam Last I read up on it, China (with the highest per-capita death penalty in the world), has mandatory harvesting of the condemned.

@maggiemaybe @metaning @eeyam Then there was the gruesome exhibition of plastinated Chinese prisoners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_Worlds?wprov=sfti1

@metaning @maggiemaybe @eeyam Larry Niven had a SF story about this: as more rich old people needed transplants, there was pressure to expand the death penalty to more and more crimes. In the end, it turns out that the main character has been condemned to death for littering or some such.

@mlippert @metaning @maggiemaybe @eeyam I might be misremembering as well. It's been a while.

@maggiemaybe @eeyam Third world tactics.

@maggiemaybe @eeyam Dear Goddess. Larry Niven's been warning us about this since the 1960s, dammit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jigsaw_Man

Can late-stage capitalists *please stop* creating the Torment Nexus?

@maggiemaybe @eeyam whaaaaaat

@maggiemaybe @eeyam A bill to permit this was proposed by two MA state reps in January, but quickly faced backlash, and was not passed (referred to committee and has not had a hearing afaik).

https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2023-02-02/a-bill-that-would-let-prisoners-trade-organs-for-a-reduced-sentence-faces-significant-blowback

@eeyam @maggiemaybe The Mileise Stage

@eeyam I’m so poor rn and in such a terrible place with a toxic work environment, I’d think about selling a kidney.

@eeyam Cyberpunk dystopia

@eeyam the irony of, you can sell your kidney (organ selling) but not your body (sex work).....

@Thebratdragon @eeyam Idioms aside, that's not selling your body; just renting it out.

@eeyam I really really really hope it's the last

@eeyam

Just before the stage when a billionaire can eat it with fava beans and a nice chianti.

@eeyam

title would've been better if the author would have pondered "why i should be able to sell my kidney"

funny how he didn't see it that way.

@eeyam better sell while you have money, because once you're desperate the price goes down

@eeyam
Well as long as the price tag for selling is so much lower than for buying (see blood donation) it won't become a mass market. Which doesn't mean that selling organs for economic reasons is a good idea at all.

@eeyam This is Libertarian message board fodder.

@eeyam A really absurd one

@eeyam @BigAngBlack This is the stage where the oligarchs realize that to prolong their lives indefinitely, they will need an ample supply of spare parts, so they are starting the process of creating that supply.

(Gonna keep spamming this link every time I mention oligarchs, because otherwise someone inevitably asks who I mean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_families)

@eeyam
I leave you all to think about why this appeared in Fortune.
"To make enough cells for a single organ, a facility would need a 10-liter stirred vat that might cost $5,000 per day to feed, for months on end"
https://fortune.com/well/2023/02/15/3d-printed-organs-may-soon-be-a-reality/

@eeyam
The "Futures Market" will be interesting.

Imagine companies with access to personal health data providing lists for tissue matching services.

What do they call it when someone sells a stock that they don't even own?

@eeyam

The stage of destruction and annihilation…

@eeyam Why does capitalism put you in such a precarious position that you are forced to sell your internal organs?

@eeyam renal

@eeyam @lisamelton Cheyne-Stokes

@eeyam A precursor to a stage where non-essential organs are considered seizable property, allowing to extract even more profit from debt.

@eeyam
It's not enough that the rich won't pay taxes. They steal our wages, attack unions, fight social programs. Once they've succeeded in impoverishing us completely, then they want to start buying our body parts so they can live longer and we can perish. They are the new vampires.

@eeyam Brazil-stage.

@eeyam That will lead to more organ theft than exists now. People will be snatched off the street, all their organs stolen and the corpses dumped at pet food factories.

@eeyam AirKidneyNLiver

@eeyam it’s like David Cronenburg‘s imagination has become reality. Behold the new flesh.

@eeyam

The first.

It's the way it was from the start, before the New Deal and the welfare state.

@eeyam the contemptible stage.

@eeyam it's obviously a bargain!

@eeyam Iran did this, and the results weren’t pretty.

@eeyam endocapitalism?

@eeyam bargaining.